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A question about last scene on Trajan Column
#1
Salve

I read somewhere that the last scene on Trajan Column, with the head of Decebalus presented at Rome on those stairs (if I remember correct?), was erased (chiseled off).
Have anyone any photos or images of that last part of the Column?
And if is correct there is any theory why and when or by who was erased?

Thanks
Razvan A.
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#2
Quote:Have anyone any photos or images of that last part of the Column?
The top of the column is badly weathered, but I don't think it's been deliberately defaced (apart from the odd cannon-ball hole, as elsewhere):
[attachment=6972]TrajansColumntop.jpg[/attachment]


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Quote:Salve

I read somewhere that the last scene on Trajan Column, with the head of Decebalus presented at Rome on those stairs (if I remember correct?), was erased (chiseled off).
Have anyone any photos or images of that last part of the Column?
And if is correct there is any theory why and when or by who was erased?
There's not enough room for anything elaborate. The sculptors squeezed in a few animals for a cute rural idyll and that was that, basically.

[Image: 799px-113_Conrad_Cichorius%2C_Die_Relief..._CXIII.jpg]

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#4
The Gemonian stairs? If this happened, the column doesn't show it.

The second-to-last scene is a bit eroded/erased, but appears to show Roman troops leaving (?) Dacia:

[Image: 800px-112_Conrad_Cichorius%2C_Die_Relief...l_CXII.jpg]

Actually, on second glance there are some Dacian prisoners there, and something's happening at the far right... Bit of a stretch to assume head-slinging though. Where did you hear about it?
Nathan Ross
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#5
Thank you all for images and posts.

I had read an article long ago, which I remembered now during a talk, and I was curious to see if someone know more about that.
I know Dio Cassius said that the head of Decebalus was bring to Rome and the interpretation from that article said if I remember correct that the fact it wasnt shown on the Column, as the last act of victory and finale of the war, it means that someone may erased on purpose that image for some reason.
I think the image posted by Nathan is the one that was discussed there, the one they said it was probably chiseled off or erased somehow.
The image supposedly show some Dacian prisoners going to Rome, and the last scene, was said there, was supposed to show the head of Decebalus bring there too (as Dio Cassius said), or thrown on the Gemonian stairs (thanks again Nathan)
Anyway, I think is possible as well that the scene with Decebalus head to not be shown (for some reasons) on the Column since the begining and that to be a natural erosion, I was curious to know if there is such or other interpretations
Razvan A.
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Quote:The image supposedly show some Dacian prisoners going to Rome, and the last scene, was said there, was supposed to show the head of Decebalus bring there too (as Dio Cassius said), or thrown on the Gemonian stairs (thanks again Nathan)
Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were referring to the scene which Cichorius interpreted as Decebalus' head being paraded in front of the soldiers (which, I think, is the one I posted above -- top row).
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diegis post=335315 Wrote:The image supposedly show some Dacian prisoners going to Rome, and the last scene, was said there, was supposed to show the head of Decebalus bring there too (as Dio Cassius said), or thrown on the Gemonian stairs (thanks again Nathan)
Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were referring to the scene which Cichorius interpreted as Decebalus' head being paraded in front of the soldiers (which, I think, is the one I posted above -- top row).

Hello Duncan

And thanks again. I am not sure where is the head seen there?

But yes, the article talked about the head presented at Rome, following Dio Cassius who said it was bring there
Razvan A.
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#8
Quote:I am not sure where is the head seen there?
If I remember correctly, Cichorius thought that this scene (CXLVII -- which is around the lefthand side of the picture I posted above) showed Decebalus' head being viewed by a group of soldiers:
[attachment=6975]Cichorius_CXLVII.jpg[/attachment]


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