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Something you should knwo about beeswax on your seg.. when the steel warms up in the sun the wax gets "fluid".. moisture can penetrate AND if you're fighting in dusty fields and rolling about in the dirt or if you're digging dust'll settle into the wax, sticking, and when the wax cools down the dirt'll be affixed...<br>
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Hello all<br>
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Hib raises a good point, I just built a belt this evening and the beeswax treatment and problem came to light when I had to drill a couple of holes in the metal I forgot to do first. The hot metal throws lines of beeswax up as it flies along the metal surface, however I have found that a properly beeswax'd piece of metal only needs a very light/heavy rub and the muck comes off (at least hot metal, dust and mud).<br>
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However building upon what Hib has said, it is important to clean your armour regularly when using any natural methid, otherwise it will cause more problems than it solves. A case in point was a friend that cleaned some of our armour using oil and sand but didn't get all the oil off and didn't do any followup cleaning ... after three days the armour was mucky, stunk and covered in flies ...<br>
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Natural product whilst feeling historic can require more work ... otherwise people wouldn't have invented modern equivalients I guess.<br>
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Excellent follow up Gashford!<br>
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We always kept oily cloths handy and wiped down metal kit as soon as we stepped off the battlefield... (well, not maybe right away, perhaps after a beer or two..). Especially important for leather straps.. after several hours of heavy use in the heat and dust older straps get brittle very fast..<br>
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Hey now, keep your banter and nanties to some other post, I was asking for suggestions and options and personal experiences/experiments, not "Me Better Dan Joo!" banter.<br>
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Thanks for all who posted suggestions regarding the actual post<br>
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I think I'm going to pick up some Rustoleum black paint, and start from there.<br>
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thanks again<br>
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If you are going to paint this inside of your lorica with something, consider taking a look at some of the clear lacquers that exist, at least using one of these you don't have to field questions about whether or not the Romans painted the inside of the loricas as no one can tell ... again ... just a thought.<br>
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And that's why I suggested aluminum colored paint... IF paint was determined to be a necessity.. the aluminum colored paint is much harder for a "nonRoman" to detect and skirts the need to answer that question.. ...this is also one of those "mistakes we made in the past/learn from our mistakes" things. We were asked what became embarrassing questions at an event many years ago about painted segs.<br>
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Yeah, but Scythius told me you painted your segs pink? <p>Magnus/Matt<br>
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<sputtering> I...did... no... such... thing!<br>
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I said that you could could spraypaint the <strong>outside</strong> of your seg pink, and use fuschia colored silk ribbons to tie it shut.<br>
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The senator's daughter that you're guarding would find that h/a/n/d/s/o/m/e er,... d/a/s/h/i/n/g...nope... ummmmm<br>
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Pretty! - <strong>THAT'S</strong> the word I was looking for!<br>
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I think I've also seen Eunich grade segmentata's painted pink. It was on a fesco somewhere. <p>Magnus/Matt<br>
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Hey, that's an interesting idea. Thanks I'll certainly consider it.<br>
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Although I think a Clear color would be better, if I got alumninum paint on the leather straps I'd be deadmeat (even though I'm an Artist, I'm not always the neatest painter...That's why I use pencil and printmaking!)<br>
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Although; my current program does not have anyone [in the audience] see the inside of the armor - save for myself and the Ed. Dept. Staff - I also don't plan to have a public "armoring" section in my program - takes too long IMHO, I have too much to talk about in 30 minutes as it is.<br>
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Hibernicus - BTW, the cotton gloves are Museum protocol, good habit in public as it helps explain the "Touch Nothing" rule for the museum's exhibits...And as I said, it makes rust-prevention that much easier when un/packing the armor.<br>
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Hey Matt, well you got me on that pink seg thing... one up on you guy!<br>
I think thus is the pic you referenced?...<br>
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AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH<br>
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NICE!!!<br>
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I suppose it will match my now fading red-pinkish tunic.... <p>Magnus/Matt<br>
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Matt:<br>
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I <strong>TOLD</strong> you that you shouldn't mix steels and colors (especially red) when you're doing laundry!<br>
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That would explain why my segmentata shrunk after I washed it. I shouldn't have put it in the dryer. <p>Magnus/Matt<br>
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Just curious, does anyone keep their helmet or segmentata (or anything else for that matter) stored in sheep skin? Its been suggested to me that I make a leather bag for my new helmet and line it with sheep skin for the natural oil properties inherent in the wool.<br>
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Anyone done similiar things?<br>
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