02-22-2013, 06:32 AM
Hmmm, perhaps you are right.
After all, the Swedish cavalry under KKG had at least one victorious charge against Polish infantry, supported by cavalry (but cavalry was seriously outnumbered by attacking Swedish cavalry). It was in the battle of Koknese on 23 June 1601 - which, as a whole, was victorious for Poland-Lithuania.
Swedish cavalry of the right wing charged and managed to defeat the Polish-Lithuanian left wing, which consisted of 200 infantry with 5 artillery guns supported by 200 - 300 cavalry.
But later counterattack of 3 squadrons (banners) of hussars saved the day on the left wing. And in the meantime 1600 horsemen of the Polish right wing charged and defeated the entire Swedish left wing and center - as the result the battle as a whole ended in a Swedish defeat.
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So for what purpose did they had all those cataphracts, Savaran shock cavalry, etc.?
The Parthian (and later Sassanid) cavalry definitely DID charge into Roman infantry!
But the Parthians also had missile cavalry - while Polish-Lithuanian army at Kircholm didn't have any missile cavalry like horse archers. The main role was played by heavy, shock cavalry - Hussars.
We do have accounts of this battle! Most of the bloody business was done by shock charges of cavalry. The Swedish infantry did not "broke and fled" just like that, without any resistance.
A herd of wild mammoths... - well, maybe of horses, but certainly not of mammoths.
Should I describe this battle? But then i will have to take my time.
As for casualties at Kircholm - casualties among horses on the Polish-Lithuanian side were heavier than casualties in men. Mainly because many horses were injured or died from enemy pikes...
After all, the Swedish cavalry under KKG had at least one victorious charge against Polish infantry, supported by cavalry (but cavalry was seriously outnumbered by attacking Swedish cavalry). It was in the battle of Koknese on 23 June 1601 - which, as a whole, was victorious for Poland-Lithuania.
Swedish cavalry of the right wing charged and managed to defeat the Polish-Lithuanian left wing, which consisted of 200 infantry with 5 artillery guns supported by 200 - 300 cavalry.
But later counterattack of 3 squadrons (banners) of hussars saved the day on the left wing. And in the meantime 1600 horsemen of the Polish right wing charged and defeated the entire Swedish left wing and center - as the result the battle as a whole ended in a Swedish defeat.
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Quote:The Parthians did more harm against the Romans and they did not charge INTO their infantry...
So for what purpose did they had all those cataphracts, Savaran shock cavalry, etc.?
The Parthian (and later Sassanid) cavalry definitely DID charge into Roman infantry!
But the Parthians also had missile cavalry - while Polish-Lithuanian army at Kircholm didn't have any missile cavalry like horse archers. The main role was played by heavy, shock cavalry - Hussars.
Quote:Many casualties does not mean that there were cavalry charges as you think they were. Maybe they broke and fled and were slaughtered in the process... maybe a herd of wild mammoths trampled them to the ground... how can I (you) say anything unless we have an account of this battle? Don't you understand how critical it is for you to be able to make any point?
We do have accounts of this battle! Most of the bloody business was done by shock charges of cavalry. The Swedish infantry did not "broke and fled" just like that, without any resistance.
A herd of wild mammoths... - well, maybe of horses, but certainly not of mammoths.
Should I describe this battle? But then i will have to take my time.
As for casualties at Kircholm - casualties among horses on the Polish-Lithuanian side were heavier than casualties in men. Mainly because many horses were injured or died from enemy pikes...
