05-13-2013, 03:54 PM
We are clearly discussing the same helmets, but the dating is also clearly disputed. This was posted here 3 months ago, so here it goes again.
Kai, strangely the text with your image suggests a 10th- century date, while the text itself suggests a late Roman origin??
Ildar, I never suggested that the palace had Turkish connections. However, at least some experts date these facemasks to the 12th-13th century, and see a Cuman-Kipchak (in my opinion 'Turkish') origin.
That's why I have formed my opinion: these facemasks are much, much later than the late Roman period.
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Kai, strangely the text with your image suggests a 10th- century date, while the text itself suggests a late Roman origin??
Ildar, I never suggested that the palace had Turkish connections. However, at least some experts date these facemasks to the 12th-13th century, and see a Cuman-Kipchak (in my opinion 'Turkish') origin.
That's why I have formed my opinion: these facemasks are much, much later than the late Roman period.
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Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)