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10-10-2012, 06:35 PM

Quote:Why would he adopt such different policies in east and west? Why would he concentrate military command under one person, since it gave even more opportunity to would-be-imitators of Merobaudes and Arbogastes?

I think Stilicho may have had more to do with that than Theodosius. But if not, Theodosius may have had a problem with trusting his commanders: those in the East had to be balanced against each other (no one too strong). In the West he just defeated a usurper, and apparently he could trust just one man, so he chose Stilicho?

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