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Notitia Dignitatum Digitized Online Free
#1
Bayerischen Staatsbibliothek has digizited "Notitia dignitatum" online & free at...

http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/...&pdfseitex=

(Added 13 Mar 2011: When you click on the PDF link, it gives a copyright notice; and afterwards, a new window opens. In that window, if you click on "ya" (yes) to only use this PDF file for personal or educational use, then another window appears. There, you can right click on the PDF link, and specify where you want the PDF file to download.)

This is a mid-16th century copy of the late 4th to early 5th century "Notitia dignitatum omnium tam civilium quam militarium in partibus orientis".

Great image resolution. Smile

You can download images in PDF format, using [PDF-Download] function linked in webpage's upper right corner.

The entire collection in PDF format is about 114 megabytes.
AMDG
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#2
It's great to have access to this important document, but one should bear in mind that the Munich copy differs from the better-known and perhaps more trustworthy Oxford copy regarding lots of the shield colours.
So when using it one should also have the Oxford version at hand.

Greets,

Andreas
Andreas Gagelmann
Berlin, Germany
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#3
Yes, very important. Would be nice to have the Oxford copy online in very good resolution.

Other copies are linked online from Dr. Ingo Maier's webpage...

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~igmaier/webnot01.htm

Smaller images of the Oxford Bodleian copy are online at Wikimedia Commons...

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Notitia_Dignitatum

For anyone interested, slightly larger, clearer images of some Oxford Bodleian copy pages are at Katherine Jenerette's webpage:

http://www.jenerette.com/notitia/

Hoping for better online in the future.
AMDG
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#4
Superb- many thanks, very useful, and a superb source. The Bayerischen Staatsbibliothek version

daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/bsb00005863/images/index.html?seite=179&pdfseitex= also has De Rebus Bellicis (with alternative pictures of the thoromachus , plumbatae etc) and the other documents in the manuscript.Plus alternative drawings at the back
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/...&seite=352



In the plates at the rear, under Zweiter Satz Miniaturen
Wiederholung aller Miniaturen , some similar colours to the Oxford manuscript are shown- eg the Batavi Iuniores with a green shield and red dog http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/...&seite=409

as opposed to the yellow background and brown dog shown here http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/...&seite=271

This looks as there are two versions of the shields in this Codex? nCan anyone confirm?

V useful and beautifully presented. Come on Oxford- do the same for the Bodleian version!
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#5
Quote:This looks as there are two versions of the shields in this Codex? nCan anyone confirm?
Yes there are. Look here on the website by dr. Ingo maier: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~igmaier/webnotve.htm

The most used (complete) versions is the Bodleian one from Oxford (Oxford, Bodleian library, western ms. 19854 - Canonici ms. misc. lat. 378, fol.88v-170r).
The ones from Munich (München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek, ms. Clm. 10291: codex 1 = fol.1-170, (fol.88r-169v) and München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek, ms. Clm. 10291: codex 2 = fol.171-222, (fol.178v-222v) are in fact two documents, part of a compilation of 13 documents (Collectio Spirensis) from Speyer which also includes other documents, such as the Notitia Galliarum, De Rebus Bellicis, The Antonine Itinerary and others.

The Oxford version is to be preferred because it uses far more colours than the Munich document.

All MSS are copies of an early Medieval copy (the 11th-c. Codex Spirensis, now lost) and originated between 1427 and 1551, none go back directly on the 5th c. original.
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#6
Thanks Vorti- a very useful link.

I looked this up last night as well (A Roman Reformer and Inventor E. A. Thompson (Other Contributor, Translator), E A Thompson - on De Rbus Bellicis) . Apparently the noble who commissioned the first copy of the Munich manuscript (now digitised) was unhappy with the first lot of illustrations as he felt that they had been "modernised". He therefore sent his illustrator back for a second go. The illustrator was "lazy" though....It'll be a long term project, but I plan to do a proper analysis of the illustrations- maybe the common features will be closest to the original...

Anyone know where I can get pictures from the Paris edition?
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#7
Thanks very much - the new instructions for download worked brilliantly!!Big Grin :-)
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#8
I'm sorry the images are not larger - I'm serving a tour of duty in Afghanistan and after I return I will upload the much larger resolution images I have from slides of the Oxford Bodleian copy of the Notitia Dignitatum - CPT J


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Capt. Jenerette: Good morning & thank you for your reply & joining RAT.

First, looking forward to your safe return home.

Second, looking forward to other things for the greatest good.

Somewhere way down the list, looking forward to your higher resolution images Oxford slide images.

Ite Deo.

Pax vobiscvm,
AMDG
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#10
Dear Katherine,
Quote:I'm sorry the images are not larger - I'm serving a tour of duty in Afghanistan and after I return I will upload the much larger resolution images I have from slides of the Oxford Bodleian copy of the Notitia Dignitatum - CPT J
Thanks for the reply. I'm very pleased to hear that you are still involved with the Notitia! We had a brief contact about the ND ages ago, and I was under the impression that you did not have the time for it any longer. I'm glad you joined the forum.
Robert Vermaat
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THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
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#11
Dr. Ingo Maier’s “The compilation 'notitia dignitatum' (Cnd)” webpage:

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~igmaier/webnot01.htm

With link to Oxford Bodleian Library’s 15th century copy:

http://treasures.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/Notitia-Dignitatum

And microfilm images, up to 1536 pixels wide:

http://bodley30.bodley.ox.ac.uk:8180/lun...cFrame_%23
Wm. Straw
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#12
Quote:Bayerischen Staatsbibliothek has digizited "Notitia dignitatum" online & free at....

They are free for personal use, but to use them in a publication one still has to pay a fee, AFAIK.
Stefan (Literary references to the discussed topics are always appreciated.)
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