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Oldest Roman Camp In Germany found
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Archeologists from Mainz say the camp near the Hunnenring at Hermeskeil dates from the Gallic Wars.
In German: http://www.uni-mainz.de/presse/53009.php
They also say its about 26 ha large and in the line of sight of the Hunnenring
a late-La Tene (gallic) fortification.
First dateable finds during the excavation campaign of 2011 were hobnails from one paved gateway, which were typically "late republican". Finds of pottery have confirmed this.
A translation will follow "as sleep permits".

Greez

English link:

http://web.rgzm.de/1538.html

The official publication accordin to that:
Archäologisches Korrespondenzblatt 42, 2012 (Heft 2)
Simplex
Siggi K.
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#2
Thanks Siggi!
Robert Vermaat
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THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
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#3
Very interesting indeed Siggi !

M.VIB.M.
Bushido wa watashi no shuukyou de gozaru.

Katte Kabuto no O wo shimeyo!

H.J.Vrielink.
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#4
German magazine GEO has a feature about this in it's September issue.
Gonna have that one. (Next on the list would be that one in the Archäologisches Korrespondenzblatt, of course :roll: )

Greez

Simplex
Siggi K.
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#5
Hi,
.... had GEO September 2012 in hand a couple of hours ago. Confusedad:
This "feature" is even more "austere" than the official press release of Mainz University. Gotta get that feature in Archeologisches Korespondenzblatt. :roll:

Greez

Simplex
Siggi K.
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#6
Wow very interesting thanks
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#7
Update:
Press Conference at Hermeskeil /Guided tour
Staged by Chief Excavatress Prof.(apl) Dr. Sabine Hornung from Johann-Gutenberg-University /Mainz(D)
(CV here : http://www.archaeologie.geschichte.uni-m...ornung.htm)
under participation of officials from nearest modern-day settlements :the community of Nonnweiler and the city of Hermeskeil.

On MONDAY , September 10th, 11:00 h

at Parkplatz/parking-lot "Waldstadion", Hermeskeil, Züscher Str. (L 165).

Application requested till 7th September at latest under : [email protected]

Greez

Simplex
Siggi K.
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#8
I've found the "original" press-release.
The most interesting feats ( the information in the text has been widely distributed by various
press features in Germany (no real news herein).
Like I use to say -- apicture ....
Pic 1 : The distribution of hobnails in realtion to the gate and the trenches in that area:
http://www.uni-mainz.de/presse/bilder_pr...ger_03.jpg
Pic 2 : Some hobnails ( no real news here but another view)
http://www.uni-mainz.de/presse/bilder_pr...ger_02.jpg
BTW : the whole kaboodle is there (In German)-- pics and two TV-features down right.
http://www.uni-mainz.de/presse/53009.php

Greez

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Siggi K.
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#9
Here's what Past Horizons reports.
Moi Watson

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, Merlot in one hand, Cigar in the other; body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, what a ride!
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#10
I used to go walking around the Hunnenring in Oetzenhausen and the woods nearby when I was stationed in Germany. There are sorts of cool things to be found in the Hunsruck.
Cheers,
Ek
Michael Ekelmann

A nation that draws too broad a difference between its scholars and its warriors has its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools-Thucydides
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#11
Quote:First dateable finds during the excavation campaign of 2011 were hobnails from one paved gateway, which were typically "late republican". Finds of pottery have confirmed this.
"... das über mehrere Wochen oder Monate hinweg genutzt wurde ..." But they had the time and inclination to pave the gateways?! :o
posted by Duncan B Campbell
https://ninth-legion.blogspot.com/
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#12
Duncan I have to "sharpen" my statement
Quote:First dateable finds during the excavation campaign of 2011 were hobnails from one paved gateway, which were typically "late republican". Finds of pottery have confirmed this.
I took this from the very early press-notes. But as you see from post #320499 , pic 1, it seems
that rather a trace of hobnails led them to find the gate etc. -- further hobnail included.
I hope that time permit me to get that part of the recent Archäologisches Korrespondenzblatt which
deals more precise with that finding-spot, so I can be more explicit about it.
Was I surprised that they had paved the gateway ??
NO. The old folks used to say "The Roman Legions- paving the way to the Empire!".
Well, it seems they took that literally, here. ;-)
But seriously -- if the troops stayed over winter I'd have expected such measures taken there, give the climate of that area, which can be rough -- as I have experienced there.
(2 years Birkenfeld/Nahe ~ 10 kms away )

Greez (From the middle of this year's inventory count :dizzy: )

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Siggi K.
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#13
Quote:if the troops stayed over winter I'd have expected such measures taken there

Interesting - if it's a winter camp might it (or its general vicinity) be mentioned in Caesar's Commentaries? Can anyone work out which campaign year of the war might have led the army there?
Nathan Ross
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#14
Hello,

I have another question. What are the differences between late republican and imperial (or perhaps middle republican) hobnails? I mean I didn't know that there is such diversity and there are various distinct types of hobnails, so that we can use them for dating of finds...

Greetings,
Alexandr
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#15
Quote:Hello,

I have another question. What are the differences between late republican and imperial (or perhaps middle republican) hobnails? I mean I didn't know that there is such diversity and there are various distinct types of hobnails, so that we can use them for dating of finds...

Greetings,
Alexandr

The link to the Past Horizons report has this (not a lot of information, but some):

"... iron shoe nails once protected the soles of Roman soldiers’ sandals. The pattern of a cross with four studs that can be seen on the underside is largely typical for the time of the late Republic. Their size, with a diameter of up to 2.6 cm, is also characteristic for this period"
Moi Watson

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, Merlot in one hand, Cigar in the other; body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, what a ride!
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