03-31-2013, 02:41 AM
Thanks for the kind words (and criticism).
You're right, that is way too many units to be in one place, but i did this in part for effect (variety of shield patterns, etc).
The unit bearing Valentinian III is a single unit theorized by JB Bury to be listed as 3 seperate units in the Notitia Dignitatum called the Placidi Valentinianici Felices Iuniores Galliciani as a whole title. It was created roughly 419 (which supports the notion that for a time the ND was regularly updated).
Although Cavalry played a pivotal role in the battle, Jordanes records (through Attila's speech) the Roman force was predominately infantry. What happened was the Alans performed a feigned retreat, and the Huns didn't realize their own tactic was being used against them. The Alans reversed and charged the pursuing Huns, while Throismund and Aetius closed in on either side. Infantry formed the bulk of either Army, and although cavalry strikes certainly made the pivotal moves, Infantry were the ones who slogged it out.
You're right about the comparison to LOTR, there were only a handful of battles on the scale of Chalons (In pre-modern times). The only one I can think of was a battle betweent the Hittites and the Egyptians which was roughly of the same size, and a handful of other battles during the Conquests of Alexander/Rise of Rome. In terms of number of nations united, Chalons is the only battle that showed the achievability of such unity.
But Chalons was definately one of those battles which would have been remembered for Centuries. Age of Empires II hit the nail on the head in their telling of it, where they have the old priest in Troyes recounting the tale of Attlia the Hun.
You're right, that is way too many units to be in one place, but i did this in part for effect (variety of shield patterns, etc).
The unit bearing Valentinian III is a single unit theorized by JB Bury to be listed as 3 seperate units in the Notitia Dignitatum called the Placidi Valentinianici Felices Iuniores Galliciani as a whole title. It was created roughly 419 (which supports the notion that for a time the ND was regularly updated).
Although Cavalry played a pivotal role in the battle, Jordanes records (through Attila's speech) the Roman force was predominately infantry. What happened was the Alans performed a feigned retreat, and the Huns didn't realize their own tactic was being used against them. The Alans reversed and charged the pursuing Huns, while Throismund and Aetius closed in on either side. Infantry formed the bulk of either Army, and although cavalry strikes certainly made the pivotal moves, Infantry were the ones who slogged it out.
You're right about the comparison to LOTR, there were only a handful of battles on the scale of Chalons (In pre-modern times). The only one I can think of was a battle betweent the Hittites and the Egyptians which was roughly of the same size, and a handful of other battles during the Conquests of Alexander/Rise of Rome. In terms of number of nations united, Chalons is the only battle that showed the achievability of such unity.
But Chalons was definately one of those battles which would have been remembered for Centuries. Age of Empires II hit the nail on the head in their telling of it, where they have the old priest in Troyes recounting the tale of Attlia the Hun.
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