06-07-2012, 03:16 AM
Hello Piotr,
You say...
"bracers, bracers everywhere! The leather Hollywood bracers on milites, on optiones, on officers. People who command and who should be setting the kit standards have those bloody Russel Crowe bracers."
A)Can you please be more specific?
- medieval chainmail hauberks worn as hamata. 8 or 10mm rings, clenched and not riveted, clearly in shape of medieval chain shirts. And this (again) even on the officers! Something between 50 and 75% of chain mails looked like this.
A) 8 to 10mm butted mail is not uncommon for 1st century. I recently visited Saalbureg fort and held an 8mm butted 1st century mail shirt in my hand. Again if you go to the Trier museum you will find 3 1st century shirts, all 6 to 8mm butted.
- chainmail (even the accurate one) worn as decoration, as a prop and not an armour. Worn directly on tunics so that it simply stops making any sense whatsoever. Maybe there were some people who actually wore chain on proper padding (and I don't mean paper-thin cow hide), but I haven't seen any.
A) What is your evidence for mail being worn over subarmails? Please expand and discuss.
- subarmalis out of wild dreams of a Hollywood set artist. Some absolutely Xena-fantasy pteruges (including officers with thin pitiful half-circles cut out of cowhide) on them. Cowhide everywhere, patterned after American movies. Decorations without any source or reference, just made up after a consultation with a goat and a camel. After the march and around the camp those would be worn without armour to strut out the fantasy stuff.
A) I wasn't aware that there was somebody going around making a study of peoples undergarments, if you had made yourself known to me I would have given you a most intimate tour of my subarmails.
- a guy with modern running white socks in his caligae!
A) Only 1!
- Brits with medieval bags, XVIIc dirks, XXc faux wineskins. A Brit in a tank-top!
A) In what context were these worn? Did the brit ware anything else but a tanktop while you were eyeing him up?
- Medieval and larp bags dangling of the balteus militaris, they were everywhere you looked. Those and female purse-sized bags.
A) Are you refering to Len Morgan?
- scale armours made with scales the size of surfing boards. Where is this coming from? Some of them looked like dragon slayers.
A) Do you have a picture of these? I'd certainly like to discuss them with you.
In short Piotr you are just shit stirring. If you really have the hobby's best interest at heart then be constructive. Please make yourself known to me at our next event and we can have a constructive conversation.
As we would say over here in the bog you would call Hibernia, your a Gobshite!
Have a nice day...
Nerva.
You say...
"bracers, bracers everywhere! The leather Hollywood bracers on milites, on optiones, on officers. People who command and who should be setting the kit standards have those bloody Russel Crowe bracers."
A)Can you please be more specific?
- medieval chainmail hauberks worn as hamata. 8 or 10mm rings, clenched and not riveted, clearly in shape of medieval chain shirts. And this (again) even on the officers! Something between 50 and 75% of chain mails looked like this.
A) 8 to 10mm butted mail is not uncommon for 1st century. I recently visited Saalbureg fort and held an 8mm butted 1st century mail shirt in my hand. Again if you go to the Trier museum you will find 3 1st century shirts, all 6 to 8mm butted.
- chainmail (even the accurate one) worn as decoration, as a prop and not an armour. Worn directly on tunics so that it simply stops making any sense whatsoever. Maybe there were some people who actually wore chain on proper padding (and I don't mean paper-thin cow hide), but I haven't seen any.
A) What is your evidence for mail being worn over subarmails? Please expand and discuss.
- subarmalis out of wild dreams of a Hollywood set artist. Some absolutely Xena-fantasy pteruges (including officers with thin pitiful half-circles cut out of cowhide) on them. Cowhide everywhere, patterned after American movies. Decorations without any source or reference, just made up after a consultation with a goat and a camel. After the march and around the camp those would be worn without armour to strut out the fantasy stuff.
A) I wasn't aware that there was somebody going around making a study of peoples undergarments, if you had made yourself known to me I would have given you a most intimate tour of my subarmails.
- a guy with modern running white socks in his caligae!
A) Only 1!
- Brits with medieval bags, XVIIc dirks, XXc faux wineskins. A Brit in a tank-top!
A) In what context were these worn? Did the brit ware anything else but a tanktop while you were eyeing him up?
- Medieval and larp bags dangling of the balteus militaris, they were everywhere you looked. Those and female purse-sized bags.
A) Are you refering to Len Morgan?
- scale armours made with scales the size of surfing boards. Where is this coming from? Some of them looked like dragon slayers.
A) Do you have a picture of these? I'd certainly like to discuss them with you.
In short Piotr you are just shit stirring. If you really have the hobby's best interest at heart then be constructive. Please make yourself known to me at our next event and we can have a constructive conversation.
As we would say over here in the bog you would call Hibernia, your a Gobshite!
Have a nice day...
Nerva.
MARCVS VLPIVS NERVA (aka Martin McAree)
www.romanarmy.ie
Legion Ireland - Roman Military Society of Ireland
Legionis XX Valeria Victrix Cohors VIII
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www.romanarmy.ie
Legion Ireland - Roman Military Society of Ireland
Legionis XX Valeria Victrix Cohors VIII
[email protected]
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