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Roman \"Canteen\"
#76
Quote:Aurificina Treverica do a nice metal Etruscan/Greek canteen/flask (Tarquinia, 4th-2nd C BC).
http://www.replik-online.de/de/shop/site...optionen=Y


Speaking of, slightly OT, but whats up with their website?
It's basically empty.
And no reply to e-mails.
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#77
Quote:Speaking of, slightly OT, but whats up with their website?It's basically empty.And no reply to e-mails.
Try http://www.replik-online.de/de/index2.html. Does not seem empty at all.
Robert Vermaat
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#78
I just got a 404 error from that server, Robert. Might be one of the mirrors is down?
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Joe Patt (Paruzynski)
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#79
The url http://www.replik-online.de/ works fine, though.
Robert Vermaat
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#80
Joe

Parafin wax is just for me not so natural.
While you can argue the whole Leather tanning thing is also not so good I hope with the process of waxing I use that I seal off the leather.
Also when soaking the leather before stretching I change the water until it runs clear.
That also gets rid of a lot of what the leather has had applied.
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#81
Beeswax is a little more flexible than paraffin usually is. It will crack less, and therefore leak less. Still, a leather canteen lined with wax ought not to be treated roughly, or it may begin to seep water through the cracks.
M. Demetrius Abicio
(David Wills)

Saepe veritas est dura.
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#82
I find mine pretty tough.

Here are some PDF's with the blank profile.

The big one is 1,2litres and the smaller one 0,5 to 0,5 lts.

You will need an A3 printer for the large flask.
As with Eric's sketch feel free to distribute.




[attachment=4018]flask-template.pdf[/attachment]

[attachment=4020]largeflask.pdf[/attachment]


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Sulpicius Florus

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"Vescere bracis meis" (eat my shorts)
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#83
[attachment=4032]Canteen.jpg[/attachment]
I found this photo online. Appears to be in the Antalya Archaeological Museum in Turkey. Has anyone seen this canteen before?


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#84
That looks really nice John.
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The good is oft interred with their bones"

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#85
A few months ago I bought a flask from AL-HAMDD TRADING POST. Please note that this is a decoration canteen .. [Image: 00c9d04443a0.jpg]

It turns out that it is unfit for use! There was no any anti corrosion coating from inside! I had to open it (to cut it).
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I give it to our blacksmith for tinning. From inside with tin so can be used. I dismantled the bracket and made it with a strap for shoulder using. We installed and a cylinder below (as a basis ) to resembling the original from Mainz. So after much work, frustration ( money spend unnecessarily) we already have two decent canteens.
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Radostin Kolchev
(Adlocutio Cohortium)
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#86
Could you have added beeswax to the inside to protect the metal from the water?
M. Demetrius Abicio
(David Wills)

Saepe veritas est dura.
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#87
Yes, lining the inside in beeswax works very well and is a lot easier and quicker to do.

The deepeeka canteens I have seen did not have a corrosion resistant coating on the inside either, nor did those I've seen from other Indian firms.
Jef Pinceel
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#88
Here in Bulgaria summer is very hot and the wax will be heat up a lot from the metal surface and the wax will be melt from inside. Maybe this version (with waxy coating from the inside) would be more appropriate for cool northern Europe as Mainz Germany (from were is the find actually).
Radostin Kolchev
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#89
Does anyone have any evidence for the use of the metal canteens in military context? To me they seem to be rather civilian items...
Christian K.

No reconstruendum => No reconstruction.

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#90
Quote:Does anyone have any evidence for the use of the metal canteens in military context? To me they seem to be rather civilian items...

And the ones that are used a lot aren't 1st century AD either, but much later...
Jef Pinceel
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Marcvs Mvmmivs Falco

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