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**richsc** · 01-13-2005, 12:25 AM

Major Clunn has updated and released his book "Quest for the Lost Roman Legions" in the United States through Savas Beatie 
 
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Richsc/S_Hi-ResCover4x6.jpg" style="border:0;"/> 
 
Hey, this cover looks like something a RAT member did: anyone know who did these miniatures? 
 
The publisher is giving RAT permission to post several chapters as well as the image above: 
 
Clunn Chapter One 
Clunn Chapter One, part 2 
Interview with Major Clunn 
 
And has asked Major Clunn to post on RAT and invite questions, which, hopefully, he'll do shortly. 
The publisherer's rep, Sarah Stephen, also is looking to book appearances by Major Clunn in the US. Seems like a great opportunity for the our legions to host a visit. Contact Ms. Stephen at [email protected] 
 
(Images and links are used with permission from the publisher: please do not alter/edit them.) 
 
Legio XX 
Caput dolet, pedes fetent, Iesum non amo 
 
Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=richsc@romanarmytalk>RichSC</A> at: 1/13/05 1:36 am

01-13-2005, 04:03 AM

Greetings 
 
First, let me thank Richard Campbell for the wonderful site RAT has here. It is fascinating, informative and a lot of fun. 
 
I am the publisher of Major Clunn's forthcoming fully revised book "The Quest for the Lost Roman Legions: Discovering the Varus Battlefield." (Savas Beatie, March 31, 2005). In the 1980s, Major Clunn single-handedly discovered the location of this famous battle, one of the most important in Western history. The result is nearly two decades of archaeology that have changed our understanding of the battle substantially, and a wonderful museum and interpretive center at Kalkriese. 
 
"The Quest for the Lost Roman Legions" details how he found the field, and unfolds like a detective story, one clue at a time. In order to better understand what took place, he wove inside his book a parallel story that includes a remarkable series of real and fictional characters in their historical setting based upon archaeological discoveries, the topography, weather of the region, and so forth. This dual presentation paints a vivid understanding of how the Roman army lived and worked, and how it ultimately ended up in Kalkriese, where it was slaughtered nearly to a man. There is no one in the world who knows more about this battle than Major Clunn. Others have thrown together books or articles on the subject in an effort to cash in on his efforts and knowledge, but Major Clunn is the real deal (and a great guy, to boot). 
 
Although the book was delayed somewhat, it is going into bound galley now and will be at the printer within two weeks. You can see more about this at 
 
www.savasbeatie.com/bookListFall04.html (it was originally privately published in 1999, but has since sold out; this edition is fully revised, updated, and has new photos, maps, and an Introduction by Roman historian Derek Williams). 
 
Major Clunn will be visiting the USA from April 23 through May 14, and during that time will be meeting various historical groups from coast to coast to deliver talks and sign his new book. He does not want any speaking fees, and only asks for travel expenses and the ability to sell his book. This is a unique opportunity to have him address your group or combined groups/organizations, personalize your book, and answer every question you can think of about the Varus battlefield. 
 
However, he can only speak and travel so many times in three weeks! Therefore, the sooner you speak with your members and arrange a date and time, the sooner we can confirm his attendance. 
 
If you are interested in having him speak with you, please contact Sarah Stephan at [email protected] 
 
Thank you for your time and keep up the good work here on the site. 
 
Ted Savas 
Savas Beatie LLC 
[email protected] 
www.savasbeatie.com

Quintius Clavus · 01-14-2005, 01:06 AM

I, for one, will happily buy the revised and updated edition. I own a copy of the 1999 privately published edition. I, too, have a long, long fascination with the Varus battle, having first encountered it in a Roman history I purchased in 1960. I also read Gregory Solon's "The Three Legions" (fiction) in the middle 60's, acquiring a copy of that book through a search service in 1971. I have also read Tacitus, Dio Cassius, Velleius Paterculus, etc. and read some stuff about Pliny the Elder and his history of the German wars. 
I hope to get to Kalkriese in the next few years (money being the issue). I would love to go at a time coinciding with a Roman reenactment event in the area (or perhaps at Xanten, then traveling to Kalkriese). I will observe the 2000th anniversary of the battle in some way in 2009. I have the full legionary kit for the Augustan to Claudian era-it being my preferred legionary impression. 
If Major Clunn is able to come to the eastern US, Maryland or points north, than I will see if I can make it to meet him. 
 
Marcus Quintius Clavus/Quinton

**Robert Vermaat** · 01-14-2005, 01:07 PM

Grunt. 
I bought mine less than two years ago at Kalkriese.. 
But at least I had him sign the copy! Valete, 
Valerius/Robert 
[url=http://www.fectio.org.uk/" target="top]fectienses seniores[/url]

01-15-2005, 09:22 PM

OK, so help me out here------- the text was privately published in 99, picked up by Savas Beatie in December of 04 and printed as the revised and expanded 1st version. Now Savas Beatie is going to release to release the 2nd version in March of 05. Is this correct? Will Amazon be able to offer the 2nd version in March?

01-16-2005, 02:52 AM

Greetings, 
 
The book was originally slated for late 2004, but it was pushed back until early 2005. So only one revised edition--completely relayed, edited, new photos, new maps, updated final chapter, new Introduction and new Postscript by Kalkriese museum director. It will be available on Amazon, though copies with signed book plates will be available through Savas Beatie ( www.savasbeatie.com for details). 
 
And your group can book the major to speak in the USA from April 23 - May 14, 2005. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me at [email protected]

Uwe Bahr · 01-17-2005, 06:35 AM

Richard, 
 
to Your question: 
 
Quote:<hr>Hey, this cover looks like something a RAT member did: anyone know who did these miniatures?<hr> 
 
I made similar miniatures for myself and displayed some photos in the modelling section. But these miniatures are from "Time Machine Miniatures". They made a series about the so called "Teutoburger Wald battle": 
 
 
- "surrounded": [url=http://www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_12.html" target="top]www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_12.html[/url] 
 
- "to the death": [url=http://www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_13.html" target="top]www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_13.html[/url] 
 
- "to the death": [url=http://www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_14.html" target="top]www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_14.html[/url] 
 
- "no escape": [url=http://www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_15.html" target="top]www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_15.html[/url] 
 
- "last chance": [url=http://www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_16.html" target="top]www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_16.html[/url] 
 
- "Arminius the victor": [url=http://www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_17.html" target="top]www.ilmodellismo-fe.com/cataloghi/tmm/photos/photo_17.html[/url] 
 
 
Another series has been made by "Pegaso models": 
 
 
- "clades variana": [url=http://www.pegasomodels.com/details_en.asp?code=54-823" target="top]www.pegasomodels.com/details_en.asp?code=54-823[/url] 
 
- "singularis pugna": [url=http://www.pegasomodels.com/details_en.asp?code=54-824" target="top]www.pegasomodels.com/details_en.asp?code=54-824[/url] 
 
- "Marcus Caelius centurio mortuus est": [url=http://www.pegasomodels.com/details_en.asp?code=54-825" target="top]www.pegasomodels.com/details_en.asp?code=54-825[/url] 
 
- "ambush": [url=http://www.pegasomodels.com/details_en.asp?code=54-826" target="top]www.pegasomodels.com/details_en.asp?code=54-826[/url] 
 
- "last standing": [url=http://www.pegasomodels.com/details_en.asp?code=54-827" target="top]www.pegasomodels.com/details_en.asp?code=54-827[/url] 
 
 
Both series are designed to be put togehter to large dioramas and the single soldiers belong to the measure of 54 mm (1:32). 
 
If You want to start creating a diorama, You will have much fun and I wish You good luck. 
 
Uwe

01-22-2005, 08:52 PM

Gentlemen: 
My name is Jim Corless and my figure company did the figures featured on Major Clunn's new edition of his "Quest" book. I must say it is more than an honor to be associated with Major Clunn's discovery. The inclusion of the image on the dust jacket represents a genesis of sincronicity. 
I initially read about the Teutoburger Battle in College 30 years ago. I have always been fasinated with history and archeology. After a stint as a history and literature teacher I was forced into becomming a trademan to support my growing family......after a bout with a serious illness I decided to have shot at a dream of mine. Always an avid modeller I thought that the time had come that if I would be deprived of my time here then I should at least seize the opportunity to do something bold and thus was born Time Machine Miniatures. 
Thanking God that all has worked out and I have recovered fully. 
In conjunction with British born designer Chris Tubb we designed a series of models to "depict" the events of 9AD and the Teutoberger Battle as we thought it might have been. 
To depict such a large engagement was far beyond our capacity however when the idea evolved to compose the scene in pieces or rather interlocking pieces the logistical and financial problems of production and marketing were solved . The resulting series of figure kits was born. As noted in a earlier response to the initial question of, "who did the figures on the cover"? the kits have been listed already. There was one exception DS-TW6 Die Germanen . In all 6 figure kits compriesed this initial series. All kit bases interlock and allow the modeller to assemble a large dioromatic scene. 
 
After discovering that a "New Book" had been published on the "Battle" by one of my customers I ran home and orderd the book via Amazon.com UK. Read the book in a few days and felt compelled to contact Major Clunn. A few phone calls to some friends in Germany yielded his home phone number. I called him, discussed my obcession with the battle he with me and I then offer to send him a set of the models. 
He loved them and we began to correspond on a fairly regular basis. 
 
In 2003 I began work on a new "Teutoburger Battle" series of figure set as the book and the "evidence" suggested that we never really treated the battle at all. We had just done some very operatic well dressed romans and barbarians.....Minerva the initial publisher then folded and the original edition of the book went into limbo. 
I had suggested that some of my publishing contats at Barnes and Noble Books/Publishing might be interested in the book and after presenting them with the book and information they had suggested a new dust jacket to "help with subject recognition" and thus better sales. I contact South African artist Angus McBride to do a painting for the the "New Jacket" although I did think that the original jacket was very impressive .....it had been pointed out that it may have been too scholarily for general appeal. Not long thereafter B&N informed us that they were not interested in the book. I phoned McBride and postponed the project. Major Clunn then continued to find a new published for the book. I was totally surpriesd when I was contacted last Summer by Ted Savas for permission to use our images with the book. That is the genesis of the inclusion of the image of "Circumclusi" on the new edition of "Quest for the Lost Legions". 
Although we did research all the figure models I never thought that they would grace the cover of a book that would represent one of the more spectacular roman archeological finds. I do hope that they do justic. 
Please forgive my lenghty and seeming self important footnote . If anyone has questions ,comments or inquiries please feel free to contact me here on on my e-mail. I can be reached at 
[email protected] 
I have now registerd with RAT and look forward to being an active member as I must say that I have found the information just incredible and very helpful not to mention the "book" information. Just finished a second Scarrow novel etc.... 
 
Best Regards to all 
Jim Corless

Uwe Bahr · 01-26-2005, 01:00 PM

Welcome to R.A.T., Jim, 
 
fine to have a further miniaturist on this forum and thank You for the extensive description, I found it not too lengthy. In my humble opinion the development history of dioramas is an interesting subject on its own. 
 
I always liked Your figure kits for their technical skill and especially as they deal with my favorite events in Roman military history: the early campaigns of Drusus, Varus and Germanicus whose locations are still hotly disputed. By the way, can we expect that Angus McBride will publish several new pictures about the battle of the Teutoburg Forest (up to now I know at least 3 from him about this theme), for example legionaries storming against the earth barriers built by the Teutons? 
 
Greets - Uwe

01-30-2005, 04:23 PM

I am writing just a few lines to thank you for the opportunity to make a small comment on my forthcoming visit to the USA in April as part of a marketing and publicity drive, primarily for the launch of the new edition of my book, and secondly but just as important to promote the Varus Battlefield at Kalkriese in northern Germany. 
 
From the comments some of you have made the Varus Battlefield remains an interesting and challenging enigma, having been subjected to some 18 years of archaeological investigations since my first discovery of the site in 1987, with over 6,000 artefacts having been recovered so far. Yet, so far only some 3-5% of the main Kalkriese battlefield area has been subjected to proper archaeological excavations, such is the enormity and scope of the task. The site is massive. The main Kalkriese site for example stretches some 5 kilometres by 2 kilometres in size, but is only a small proportion of the overall size and scope of the complete 3-4 day running battle that took place, over perhaps some 50-60miles from start to ultimate finish at Kalkriese. 
 
Perhaps when I arrive in America there may be the opportunity to meet with as many groups such as yourselves as possible, and talk about this amazing archaeological discovery, and what the future holds. This year for example, we have a festival Roman/German week-end at Whitsun where some 250-300 re-enactment personnel, Roman and German, including many Roman groups and individuals from Great Britain take part in a great pageant, including Gladiator fights, Roma weapon displays, counter marching, and much more. Some 30,000 tourists attended the last similar event in 2003. (In 2002, the Battlefield Park was officially opened, including a purpose built Museum, Tower and Park costing circa ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬20,000,000). 
 
In 2009, there will be a huge National Festival to celebrate the 2,000th Anniversary of the Varus Battle in AD. Undoubtedly "Romans" from all over the world would be welcomed with open arms. 
 
In conclusion, if I can't make the call and see you all on my visit in April/May, I would be delighted and honoured to show any visitors to the site in Germany around whenever they might wish to visit this fascinating archaeological site. 
 
As far as the Varus story and discovery of the site is concerned, including the battle as I believe it took place, I can only recommend you read this new version of my book, which has been subjected to some excellent editing and updating work by my new publisher, Ted Savas, at Military Books above. 
 
All best wishes 
 
Tony Clunn

01-30-2005, 04:35 PM

Forgive my unintentional omission, computers and I often tend to go different ways on occasion. What I failed to mention is that I am very grateful for the comments about my book, The Quest for the Lost Roman Legions: Discovering the Varus Battlefield. I obviously am very excited about the new edition, as well as my speaking/book signing tour in the United States I would be more than happy to answer any questions about the book, my discovery of the Varus Battlefield, or indeed any related part of that with regards to either archaeology or the historical aspects of the events of the battle in AD9. Please post any questions, and having now successfully registered on this amazing web-site I will respond as best I can. 
 
Thanks for your patience and understanding! 
 
Tony Clunn Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=caiusfabius>Caius Fabius</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ROMANISROMANORVM/files/C%20Fabius%201988b.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 1/31/05 1:11 am

**richsc** · 01-30-2005, 08:07 PM

Greetings Major Clunn! Many thanks for the replies. I'm sure that all the Roman groups in the US and Canada would be glad to have you stop by. Certainly we in Legio XX 
here in the Washington DC area would roll out the Roman equivalent of a red carpet. Would we all have to coordinate through your publisher? I have already emailed them about cooperative visits with booksellers in the area, and now that I think of it, signings at antiquities dealers might not be a bad venue either. We happen to have one here in DC, fairly new, and some members here know others. 
Just some ideas on having a successful tour. Legio XX 
Caupona AsellinaeEdited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=richsc>Richsc</A> at: 1/30/05 9:12 pm

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