1st Century imperial Auxiliary tunic

[John Conyard]

My understanding of textiles is limited to what I need for work so my intervention in this thread is somewhat rash, but I understood this was an issue of yarn and fleece rather than weave.

I believed there was little doubt that twill was used in Scandinavia before the Roman occupation, but it generally used S-spun yarn of the Huldremose type.

In Scandinavia the introduction of the loom weight and the replacement of the tubular loom with the warp-weighted loom lead to the use of Z twill, as used elsewhere in Europe. It was a little late in coming to Sweden, but the use of Z-spun yarns is seen by some as a “Roman” influence. Native fleece was turned into cloth of varying quality using Z-spun yarn from around AD 200.

The Virring type textile is specifically a fine good quality wool, appearing in Denmark in the late 1st century AD , becoming common all over Scandinavia by the 3rd and 4th centuries but disappearing completely around AD 400. It is the product of a warp-weighted loom, but also very good quality well developed fleece of a type not native to Scandinavia at that time. Hence a belief that it was imported. It does have parallels in Britain and the rest of Europe.

I use

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Zljld...es&f=false

to guide me through all this.

[Joze Noriker]

Hi, i see here a big controverse meaning:
1. Zitat: "Apparently the textiles in question are the so called Virring type. In some cases I believe they are also found with Roman artefacts. How they got where they are found and who made them is what is open for debate"

2. Zitat: "It could well be that they fall into one of those, the Barbarians were not sophisticated enough to make them so they must be Roman,types of arguments."
?????

1: if we were researching by this focus and matrix, we shuuldn't know nothing by the 99% of prehistoric textile-items, what were they, who were their owner and who made them.

2. a)do we know 100% clear where was maded each textile fragment in pre-roman and roman time?
b)The twill in many variants exists from Bronze age time in Europe. Here one item of Hallstattic textile-techniques-patterns with many different variants of the twill-styles :
http://dressid.nhm-wien.ac.at/textile_e.html

About this important symposium i wrote here in theme Events:http://dressid.nhm-wien.ac.at/main_e.html

Joze