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Lamellar armour in 4th century context..
#1
Howdy!

I would like to know how plausible it is to use my lamellar cuirass for a 4th century AD roman soldier impression (see the pic of my cuirass below). I am not able to study my books concerning the subject right now so any quick opinions? Is there any pictorial / sculptural evidence? Thanks in advance Big Grin !

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Virilis / Jyrki Halme
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#2
Don't know for the 4th century (which region ?), but there are some Lamella known from a Dutch site predating this era.
I believe these came from the Velsen site.
Not quite sure because I forgot to buy the book in which these were published.
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Garrelt
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#3
psh, looks like a nice piece though!
Samuel J.
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#4
Quote:Is there any pictorial / sculptural evidence?

Possibly. I strongly suspect this 5th century mosaic from Ravenna shows Christ wearing a lamellar cuirass.

Ravenna mosaic

If so, it's no doubt inspired by the Lombards who definately wore lamellar armor. So, maybe you can say you're a Lombard from the upper Danube in Roman service ?

~Theo
Jaime
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#5
Jyrki

The Lamellar looks good, but looking at it in Detail it seems like you used "Visby" D-shape Lamella.
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To my knowledge earlier Lammella were more rectangular.


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#6
Hi Garrelt!

I am aware that the lamellars should be more rectancular Confusedad: ...
Virilis / Jyrki Halme
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#7
Ok

You can always use it as a Viking or a Slav.
MPS=> Multi Period Syndrome :razz:

I really had hoped that I found the book with the Lammella from the Dutch site in our office library.
In that case I would have scanned the page where these are on.
As I recall these are in this Dutch only book.
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#8
Jyrki

Just went through Miks sword book in the catalog section the right hand figure at Tafel 305 seems to be wearing a lamellar made of D-shape Lamella.
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Garrelt
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#9
The one found at Cartagena is dated from the byzantine period...
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#10
Nice to see that a piece of metal can be used over a longer period.
This could mean that you can build a Lamella armour that you could wear from 100ad to roughly 1100ad.
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Garrelt
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