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What Roman military hero do you admire most?
#61
Yes, I would definately agree with you aemillianus
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
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#62
You could always consider doing the final "glory" of the Republic with the Triumvirate:

Crassus (victor over Spartacus)
Pompey (victor over Mithradates, Tigranes the Great, etc)
Caesar

Seems like it oculd make for a quite interesting set of contrasting personalities.

Chris
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#63
Actually, 'the Triumvirate' was actually the Young Caesar (later Augustus), Anthony and Lepidus. Caesar, Pompey and Crassus never formed themselves into a three man committee to change the state in the way that Caesar's heir and his partners did.
In fact, Pompey and Crassus could hardly stand each other and simply acted together for Caesar's benefit because it was politically expedient for them to do so. Both had had their careers advanced by Sulla and Caesar had set himself up early in his career in opposition to the Sullans who formed the majority of the senate following Sulla's rebuilding of the senate's depleted numbers with men of his own choosing.
Therefore, referring to Caesar, Pompey and Crassus as a triumvirate, although routinely done, is not technically correct.

As to the proposal though, I agree - contrasting the three could be quite interesting as an artistic proposition.

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#64
Quote:Constantine was a murderour psychotic, not a great general!(I did mention him) :wink:

Whose history are you basing this statement on?
Adrian Coombs-Hoar
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#65
The one where he murders close family members...fits the bill in my book! :wink:
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
Titus Flavius Germanus
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#66
Quote:The one where he murders close family members...fits the bill in my book! :wink:

I think your getting confused with Constantius II, the only 'family' member that Constantine was accused of murdering was his wife Fausta, but this statement was made by Zosimus who had an axe to grind against Constantine (Zosimus blamed Constantine for the state of the Empire by removing troops from the old frontier forts and putting them into City garrisons, he also of course was not well disposed to Constantine for officially sanctioning Christianity). The vast majority of other ancient writers were full of praise for Constantine, but of course, they were Christian writers not about to defame the man who became the first Christian Emperor!
Adrian Coombs-Hoar
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#67
Didn't he also have his son Crispus executed, possibly because of a plot on Fausta's part (Zosimus again)?
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#68
Hmm, obvious Romulus and Remus, Mucius Scaevola, Cincinatus and ofcourse Lucius Sergius Catilina, my favourite by far (with special mentiones to Scipio Africanus and Caius Marius)
Razvan A.
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#69
Quote:Didn't he also have his son Crispus executed, possibly because of a plot on Fausta's part (Zosimus again)?

He had Crispus executed because Fausta's accused him of making advances at her allegedly (she was his stepmother), and Constantine flipped out and gave orders to have Crispus executed, by the time Constantine's mother (being Crispus' grandmother) put some reason into Constantine's head, it was too late and the orders to execute Crispus were already carried out.

It was at this time when he was certain that Fausta had fooled him, that he had her executed. He also had his brother in law executed after he resigned him of duty, as well as his nephew.

Constantine did a lot of great things for the Empire, but he felt that since he was ruling in favor for God, that he could do no wrong
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#70
Quote:Constantine did a lot of great things for the Empire, but he felt that since he was ruling in favor for God, that he could do no wrong
I don't think you can put it quite like that. Constantine may have had his convictions, but he was also in doubt to a certain degree.
Robert Vermaat
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#71
The Illyrian junta.
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