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Monokyklou, pabo, pabillus, wheelbarrow
#1
Currently there are three references to ancient wheelbarrows to be found:

*Monokyklou, in: M. J. T. Lewis, "The Origins of the Wheelbarrow," Technology and Culture, Vol. 35, No. 3. (Jul., 1994), pp. 453–475
*Pabillus in Historia Augusta, Elagabalus 29: Historia Augusta, Elagabalus 29 and Charlton T. Lewis, Charles Short, A Latin Dictionary: pabillus
*Pabo somewhere in Isidore of Seville: Charlton T. Lewis, Charles Short, A Latin Dictionary: pabo

Do you know a) which passage of Isidore exactly refers to a pabo and if this might be a later interpolation. And b) are there still more references?
Stefan (Literary references to the discussed topics are always appreciated.)
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#2
I seem to remember a wall painting of a Roman wheelbarrow. Anyone have a copy?
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Quote:**http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0059:entry=pabo
*Pabo in Isidore of Seville
I thought it might be in Bk X ("Vocabulary"), but I can't see it ... so far. (Helpful of Lewis & SHort not to give a proper ref. :? )
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#4
My second thought was XX.11 (De vehiculis) ... but again, nothing. Sad

Still trying ...
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#5
Lewis and Short cite a gloss. But a gloss from which edition? Its not in Bill Thayer's Latin text.
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Quote:Lewis and Short cite a gloss. But a gloss from which edition? Its not in Bill Thayer's Latin text.
Every dictionary I can find has the same "Isid. Gloss.", referring (I think) to Isidorus' "Glossarium" (actually the Etymologiae or Origines). I have been through the entire work now, and can't find a single reference to Pabo vel sim.

Perhaps Confusedhock: it's a mistaken reference, carried from one dictionary to the next.

(I do wonder why editors of the Vita Elagabali thought that his pabillus was a wheelbarrow -- seems an odd inference, though I have no idea what it really might be.)
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#7
I just checked the Index Verborum to the 1911 Oxford Classical Texts edition of the Etymologiae, and pabo is not there either; nor in the OLD. I suspect Lewis and Short found themselves with an index card with an unclear reference and decided to publish it anyways.

I think I even found the source: p. 599 of Wilhelm Freund's "Wörterbuch der Lateinischen Sprache" (1845) has "pabo, pabonis, m. ein einradriges <something I can't read in the original font> 'pabo vehiculum unius rotae' Gloss. Isid." Lewis and Short based their work on Freund.
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Quote:I think I even found the source: p. 599 of Wilhelm Freund's "Wörterbuch der Lateinischen Sprache" (1845) has "pabo, pabonis, m. ein einradriges <something I can't read in the original font> 'pabo vehiculum unius rotae' Gloss. Isid." Lewis and Short based their work on Freund.
Snap! Big Grin I had also gone back to Freund, but wondered where he got it from!

(Which still leaves the problem of the H.A.'s pabillus. :? )
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#9
Quote:I seem to remember a wall painting of a Roman wheelbarrow. Anyone have a copy?

Would be a major discovery. Where did you see it?

There were one-wheeled toys which children pushed by means of a connected stick, but without a barrow or trough on top.
Stefan (Literary references to the discussed topics are always appreciated.)
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Sean Manning post=292555 Wrote:I think I even found the source: p. 599 of Wilhelm Freund's "Wörterbuch der Lateinischen Sprache" (1845) has "pabo, pabonis, m. ein einradriges <something I can't read in the original font> 'pabo vehiculum unius rotae' Gloss. Isid." Lewis and Short based their work on Freund.
Snap! Big Grin I had also gone back to Freund, but wondered where he got it from!

(Which still leaves the problem of the H.A.'s pabillus. :? )
Its frustrating to have one use of what looks like a diminutive of pabo but no known use of the original word; maybe someone with access to a good dictionary of medieval Latin could check if medieval authors use it? My university doesn't really have a medieval studies library (Of course, I suspect it will turn out that you've already checked one!)
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