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sarissa
#1
Hi

I have bought a manning imperial sarissa head and butt-spike. does anybody know where you can get a middle piece for the sarissa pls?

tnx
Yves Goris
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Quintus Aurelius Lepidus
Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis
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#2
"Hetairoi" had it custom made.
This is their site: http://www.hetairoi.de
The answer to your query lays there I think.

Kind regards
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#3
tnx. I've contacted them.
Yves Goris
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Quintus Aurelius Lepidus
Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis
Reburrus
Cohors VII Raetorum Equitata (subunit of Legio XI CPF)
vzw Legia
Flanders
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#4
Just a cautionary comment here. The actual "sarissa head" is considerably heavier than the actual butt spike and has a slightly greater socket diameter--odd for an extremely long pike that if anything would be tapered toward the front and would have a butt spike heavier than the head to act as a counterweight. Some scholars therefore believe that the "sarissa head" is actually the "aft head" of one of those cavalry lances with a point at each end.
Manny Garcia
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#5
Indeed,and Connolly offers convincing argumentation fot me. The real sarissa head was most probably one of the smaller heads that were found nearby,and was considerably lighter. Now this is not something that you want to hear after you have just received your long awaited order from MI, but on the other hand it's much easier to find another spearhead than a buttspike like that one. Unfortunately,in fact we can't be sure that this was the sarissa butt, but it makes much more sense than that that bih head was belonging to a sarissa.
Khaire
Giannis
Giannis K. Hoplite
a.k.a.:Giannis Kadoglou
a.k.a.:Thorax
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#6
Yes chances are that the large spear point of Vergina was not for sarrisa.

If you have already bough it try to modify the blade to the "Vegora type" shown here

http://hetairoi.de/zenphoto/2010/rem-ma ... 68.JPG.php

After handling both "beasts" Kurt, Thorstein and me believe the "Vegora type" point to be "more correct"

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#7
tnx!

I want things right, that's all I'm interested in. If this means discarding or modifying...
Yves Goris
****
Quintus Aurelius Lepidus
Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis
Reburrus
Cohors VII Raetorum Equitata (subunit of Legio XI CPF)
vzw Legia
Flanders
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#8
Quote:If this means discarding or modifying...

You might consider rounding up a couple of spearheads and making both an infantry sarissa and an "aft head" style cavalry lance.
Manny Garcia
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#9
Quote:Yes chances are that the large spear point of Vergina was not for sarrisa.

If you have already bough it try to modify the blade to the "Vegora type" shown here

http://hetairoi.de/zenphoto/2010/rem-ma ... 68.JPG.php

After handling both "beasts" Kurt, Thorstein and me believe the "Vegora type" point to be "more correct"

Kind regards

I'd be interested in hearing more about the coupler shown in the photo. I believe it was Markle who was persuaded by a blacksmith he was working with that the short tubular piece found at Vergina couldn't have been used as a coupler because it was too short to hold two sarissa sections together.
Manny Garcia
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#10
Many
The only widely circulating photo is the one from Manolis Andronikos book but the illustration was not done to the actual sizes of the finds.
The pics were put on the same page of the book without reflecting the true analogy/size the artifacts.
If you like contact the "Hetairoi" and they will help you on your querry.

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#11
I was lucky enough to visit the "Heracles to Alexander" exhibition at the Ashmolean recently. An inspirational exhibition, http://www.ashmolean.org/exhibitions/heracles/

The so-called sarissa fittings are on display and I was able to take a good long look at them. The head is very large, very heavy and has a huge socket. Definitely more of a hunting head large enough to stop a boar, than anything to be mounted on a sarissa. The size and weight of the head would make it hard to manage on a short shaft of 6 feet.

The collar has a much smaller internal diameter, and is too short to couple two shafts together.I can offer little explanation as to what it is, but it is not a coupling for a sarissa.

The butt is a fantastic bit of work and would certainly be heavy enough to counter balance a pike.
John Conyard

York

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#12
John,were photos allowed in the exhibition. There are some objects (like one of the two pyre swords)that i desperately want photos of. Did you take any photos?
Khaire
Giannis

EDIT: Sorry,i got my answer from the other thread you posted.
Giannis K. Hoplite
a.k.a.:Giannis Kadoglou
a.k.a.:Thorax
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