Amazon with.....medieval shield!!!!!!!!!!!
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Amazon with.....medieval shield!!!!!!!!!!!
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08-31-2010, 04:00 PM
The Attic Orphics Kroyssos supports your point Paul.
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HOPLITE14GR (aka Stefanos)
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08-31-2010, 05:21 PM
The pelike was found in Kerch, but the label provided no further information. It was accompanied by another painted pelike of the same date and provenance which showed a Greek wearing an Attic helmet and carrying an Argive shield fighting an Amazon who was also carrying an Argive shield.
Ruben
He had with him the selfsame rifle you see with him now, all mounted in german silver and the name that he\'d give it set with silver wire under the checkpiece in latin: Et In Arcadia Ego. Common enough for a man to name his gun. His is the first and only ever I seen with an inscription from the classics. - Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian
08-31-2010, 07:13 PM
Quote:an Amazon who was also carrying an Argive shield Do you have an image of that one? 
Paul M. Bardunias
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08-31-2010, 07:29 PM
Quote:OK,this look suspicious. It isn't completely impossible that such a symbol existed in greece,there are some rather peculiar designs on shields,but i wonder if there is any possibility that it was retouched in medieval times...Do we know anything on the context it was found? A retouching was actually my first thought as well. That is why I asked for the date. The design of the cross is just "too" similar to the Templars version. Either they (Templars) lifted it or they (Templars) Retouched it. I would like an analysis of the paints on that vase as I am sure many others would too. The Shield of the Amazon may have been it's own design too. If there is any truth to the Amazons at all. They did ride horses according to Herodotus and it would make sense to lengthen the pelta for use on horseback. I wouldn't swear by it unless there was evidence though. :|
Craig Bellofatto
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08-31-2010, 08:54 PM
Ok, it was'nt fair to blow my mind so early in the morning and before I had a first cup of coffee even! After waking up and giving this some thought and having another look at the image, I am not as blown away now, the cross is simply two intersecting lines and not totally suprising to find such in a pre Christian era. The shield is similar to a medieval period 'heater' shield, but by no means an exact match. The particular shape of the cross pictured is at least somewhat similar to a Templar cross (among other medieval orders), but again it's not an exact match. Still very interesting though. :wink:
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