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Osprey Gladiators - Wisdom/McBride
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Suzy:<br>
My blowup shows helmets roughly Pompeii/provocator in shape but no sign of the characteristic brow reinforce. Visor detail is sketchy but the helms seem roughly spherical, which may be an exaggerration. The crest boxes appear to be metal and permanently affixed, as on the thraex and murmillo helms, topped with very bushy feathers that appear greenish in most color repros I've seen.<br>
Conal:<br>
I'm with you on the shield. I think it's an equites shield. In art, the hoplomachus shield is usually the "salad-bowl" style, very deeply convex. I used to think this was strictly an arena shield since I'd neverseen the design elsewhere, but in the Osprey "Republican Roman Army" book, on p. 43, there is a photo of the base of a momnument said to have been erected to a consul of 29, featuring trophies of arms. The middle shield is a hoplo salad bowl, so maybe it saw military use as well. Most depictions suggest a center grip, but the hoplomachus on the Umbricius Scaurus monument from Pompeii shows a rare inner view, and the gladiator is gripping it at the rim like a Greek hoplon (I have issues with details of this monument, which is known only from 18th century drawings, but that's a subject for another thread.) <p></p><i></i>
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Osprey Gladiators - Wisdom/McBride - by richard - 12-01-2001, 04:19 AM
Re: Osprey Gladiators - by Anonymous - 08-22-2002, 11:22 AM
Re: Osprey Gladiators - by Anonymous - 08-22-2002, 01:24 PM
Re: Angus McBride - by Anonymous - 08-22-2002, 01:29 PM
Re: Angus McBride - by richard - 08-22-2002, 10:53 PM
Errata - here you go - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 08:21 AM
Re: Errata - here you go - by richard - 08-23-2002, 09:49 AM
Re: Errata - here you go - by Gashford - 08-23-2002, 10:09 AM
Re: Errata - here you go - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 12:29 PM
Re: Errata - here you go - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 02:01 PM
morituri te salutant - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 02:09 PM
morituri te salutant - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 02:15 PM
rephrase - by Anonymous - 08-23-2002, 02:26 PM
Re: rephrase - by Gashford - 08-23-2002, 02:36 PM
Osprey gladiators - by John Maddox Roberts - 08-23-2002, 05:16 PM
Re: Osprey gladiators - by Gashford - 08-23-2002, 05:35 PM
Re: Osprey gladiators - by Anonymous - 08-24-2002, 10:51 AM
Re: Osprey gladiators - by Anonymous - 08-24-2002, 01:50 PM
Re: Osprey gladiators - New Edition - by Anonymous - 08-24-2002, 11:08 PM
Revised Osprey Gladiator - by Anonymous - 08-25-2002, 03:40 PM
Re: Revised Osprey Gladiator - by richard - 08-25-2002, 05:15 PM
Re: Osprey Gladiators - Wisdom/McBride - by Anonymous - 08-25-2002, 07:20 PM
Re: Revised Osprey Gladiator - by Anonymous - 08-26-2002, 09:18 AM
Re: Osprey gladiator - by Anonymous - 08-27-2002, 09:40 AM
Osprey Gladiators - by Muzzaguchi - 08-30-2002, 12:51 AM
Bad Osprey! - by Anonymous - 09-15-2002, 01:11 PM
Re: Angus McBride - by Robert Vermaat - 09-17-2002, 11:01 AM
Re: Angus McBride - by Anonymous - 10-14-2002, 12:26 PM
manicae - by John Maddox Roberts - 10-14-2002, 02:52 PM
Re: manicae - by mcbishop - 10-14-2002, 04:23 PM
Re: manicae - by Anonymous - 10-15-2002, 12:12 PM
zliten mosaic - by John Maddox Roberts - 10-15-2002, 11:27 PM
Re: zliten mosaic - by Anonymous - 10-17-2002, 07:39 AM
Zliten and arm guards - by Anonymous - 11-01-2002, 04:59 PM
Zliten provocatores - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-02-2002, 04:10 PM
Re: Zliten provocatores - by Anonymous - 11-04-2002, 12:46 PM
Re: Zliten provocatores - by Anonymous - 11-04-2002, 03:28 PM
Re: Zliten provocatores - by Anonymous - 11-04-2002, 05:20 PM
zliten provocatores and hoplo shield - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-04-2002, 06:16 PM
Hoplo salad bowls - by Anonymous - 11-05-2002, 05:56 PM
Re: Provocator Helmet - by Anonymous - 11-06-2002, 02:15 PM
provocator crests - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-06-2002, 02:43 PM
correction - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-06-2002, 03:58 PM
Re: Sica - by Anonymous - 11-06-2002, 04:12 PM
sica - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-06-2002, 06:24 PM
Sica - by Anonymous - 11-07-2002, 09:42 AM
Re: Sica - by Anonymous - 11-07-2002, 05:29 PM
weird sica - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-07-2002, 08:32 PM
curved sicae - by Anonymous - 11-08-2002, 11:59 AM
Re: curved sicae - by Anonymous - 11-08-2002, 12:34 PM
That helmet - by Anonymous - 11-08-2002, 01:53 PM
sica and helmet - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-08-2002, 06:07 PM
helmets thread and translation - by Anonymous - 11-10-2002, 01:19 PM
provenance - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-10-2002, 08:42 PM
Re: provenance - by Gashford - 11-11-2002, 10:10 AM
thracian - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-11-2002, 04:41 PM
Re: blood - by Anonymous - 11-13-2002, 02:02 PM
Zliten secutor - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-14-2002, 03:26 PM
Re: Zliten secutor - by Gashford - 11-14-2002, 04:00 PM
Re: Sica - by Anonymous - 11-15-2002, 05:39 PM
sica - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-16-2002, 02:26 AM
Epee - by Gashford - 11-16-2002, 02:33 PM
enigmatic sica - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-16-2002, 03:37 PM
British Museum - by Gashford - 11-16-2002, 05:41 PM
Re: British Museum - by Anonymous - 11-18-2002, 01:24 PM
odd sword - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-18-2002, 02:24 PM
Re: odd sword - by Anonymous - 11-19-2002, 02:03 PM
pointless swords - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-19-2002, 06:30 PM
addition - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-19-2002, 06:34 PM
various - by Anonymous - 11-20-2002, 10:33 AM
Sword not from Pompeii - by Anonymous - 11-21-2002, 10:46 AM
Re: Sword not from Pompeii - by Gashford - 11-22-2002, 12:22 PM
The sword in the OSPREY BOOK - by Anonymous - 11-22-2002, 01:40 PM
kebab skewer - by John Maddox Roberts - 11-22-2002, 03:06 PM
the sword in the OSPREY BOOK in the Augst Museum - by Anonymous - 11-22-2002, 03:33 PM
Re: the sword in the OSPREY BOOK in the Augst Museum - by Anonymous - 11-25-2002, 01:57 PM
Re: the sword in the OSPREY BOOK in the Augst Museum - by Anonymous - 11-25-2002, 02:12 PM
Gladiator forum - by Gashford - 12-05-2002, 07:49 PM
Re: Gladiator forum - by Jasper Oorthuys - 12-05-2002, 07:55 PM
Re: Gladiator forum - by Gashford - 12-21-2002, 12:41 AM

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