Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
St. Albans Seg and sundries
#16
My thanks also for sharing these excellent photos, Byron.....it has been many years since I was there, and in the old days it was just the mosaics that were the focus of the display.

Back in the seventies I made a couple of copies of the mosaic to the right of the fan-shaped one, showing the celtic horned God "Cernonos", as coffee tables....and these sold surprisingly well, but were far too laborious and time consuming to make.....

But nice to see the 'old boy' again !! Smile D
"dulce et decorum est pro patria mori " - Horace
(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)

"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
Paul McDonnell-Staff
Reply
#17
That would be time consuming, but, an excellent coffee table....some lucky people are enjoying right aboutnow I bet.
They would make great bathroom floors too.
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
Titus Flavius Germanus
Batavian Coh I
Byron Angel
Reply
#18
Quote:Do you or does anyone else know if the collection has been published anywhere?

The lorica seg was published in JRMES 12/13 (Rosalind Niblett, 'A lorica fragment from Verulamium', 67-73) - it may be Boudican but the dating evidence is not very clear. Most of the other stuff has appeared in the various Verulamium reports* although (from memory) the mail came from a pre-Boudican cremation context in Folly Lane,** now thought to be a native officer serving with the Roman army.

*S.S. Frere, Verulamium Excavations. Vol 1, Soc. of Ant. Res.Report no.28, London 1972
S.S. Frere, Verulamium Excavations. Vol 2, Soc. of Ant. Res.Report no.41, London 1983
S. Frere, Verulamium Excavations, Vol 3, Oxford University Committee for Archaeology Monograph No. 1, Oxford 1985

** R. Niblett, The Excavation of a Ceremonial Site at Folly Lane, Verulamium, Britannia Monograph No. 14, London 1999

Mike Bishop
You know my method. It is founded upon the observance of trifles

Blogging, tweeting, and mapping Hadrian\'s Wall... because it\'s there
Reply
#19
Thanks Mike.

Graham.
"Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allan Poe.

"Every brush-stroke is torn from my body" The Rebel, Tony Hancock.

"..I sweated in that damn dirty armor....TWENTY YEARS!', Charlton Heston, The Warlord.
Reply
#20
Wow! Awesome thread and photos! Confusedhock: I liked the casual storytelling though... it was fun! :lol:
Craig Bellofatto

Going to college for Massage Therapy. So reading alot of Latin TerminologyWink

It is like a finger pointing to the moon. DON\'T concentrate on the finger or you miss all the heavenly glory before you!-Bruce Lee

Train easy; the fight is hard. Train hard; the fight is easy.- Thai Proverb
Reply
#21
Thanks for adding some facts to the thread gents.
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
Titus Flavius Germanus
Batavian Coh I
Byron Angel
Reply
#22
Quote:The lorica seg was published in JRMES 12/13 (Rosalind Niblett, 'A lorica fragment from Verulamium', 67-73) - it may be Boudican but the dating evidence is not very clear. Mike Bishop

There is actually more of this armour than the display shown/photograph contains. I remember Mike telling me that when first discovered (and I think for a few years afterwards) it was thought to have been a bucket! There's a photo of the find 'in situ' on p.73 of the reference Mike gives and it's easy to see how this could be done.

Basically (for those who don't have access to JRMES 12/13), it's a set of girdle plates from one side of the armour, largely from the front and back areas of the lames - some 30 fragments in all. The positions of a number of them can be established fairly easily because of the presence of the brass tie-loops but there are a number of bits of armour that could have come from anywhere.

Mike Thomas
(Caratacus)
visne scire quod credam? credo orbes volantes exstare.
Reply
#23
With regards to the black coating on the mail, a few years ago, when visiting the Verulamium museum, I noted that label and asked the staff on duty for further information. With great dedication they searched through the excavation reports for me, as well as checking every detail they were able to from the catalogues but could not find any reference to the black coating aside from the label in the display case, which they consequently suggested to me might have been speculation on the part of whoever had written the label and noted the known practice during the seventeenth century of painting armour black which could have inspired such speculation.

Crispvs
Who is called \'\'Paul\'\' by no-one other than his wife, parents and brothers.  :!: <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_exclaim.gif" alt=":!:" title="Exclamation" />:!:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.romanarmy.net">www.romanarmy.net
Reply
#24
Probably....as i noted they labeled a spear butt spike as a ballista bolt head... :roll: :lol:
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
Titus Flavius Germanus
Batavian Coh I
Byron Angel
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  St Albans Carpenters tools. Gaius Julius Caesar 0 828 07-02-2010, 12:52 PM
Last Post: Gaius Julius Caesar

Forum Jump: