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A new emperor statue fragment from Lussonium, Pannonia
#1
A bronze statue's leg was found (during the excavations of the Archaeological Department of the University of Pécs) at Lussonium (today Paks, Tolna county, Hungary), near the auxiliary fort's northern gate. It's probably can be dated to the turn of the second and third centuries A.D., according to the ornaments of the boot. It is stated, that once it could have been a part of a bronze statue of emperor Caracalla.

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#2
Here are the pictures! Sry...
[url:25ah86ur]http://www.teol.hu/galeria/33679[/url]
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#3
Thanks! the most ornate shoes I've ever seen....

Would you know what the leather fragment shown in the pictures is?

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#4
Lussonium / Dunakömlöd rings a bell -- don't we already have a statue base of Volusianus from that fort?
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#5
Same question as Caballo!

Sure looks like ornate leather carving was a possibility for the Romans.
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#6
The boot seems to be enclosed, doesn't it ?


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#7
Quote:Lussonium / Dunakömlöd rings a bell -- don't we already have a statue base of Volusianus from that fort?

Yep:

http://www.ubi-erat-lupa.org/site/daten ... p?Nr=10122

published in:
Eine Statuenbasis des Kaisers Volusianus von Lussonium (Paks-Dunaköml?d). Acta Arch.Hung. 41, 1989, 385-397.

anyway:
some more pictures and a video about the website of city Paks-Dunaköml?d (sorry the video is in Hungarian only):

http://www.paks.hu/hirek/hir_kultura.ph ... 75d6c1c222

unfortunately I found nothing about the nature of that leather looking thing Sad
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#8
I'm not sure if it's a leather fragment, I don't know what it is. No one mentioned anything about it at the Arch. Dep. of the University. There's a new's blackout becasue of "the significance of the find".
The article is - of course Hungarian - here's the translation:

"PAKS-DUNAKÖMLÖD| A leg fragment of a military-attired roman emperor's bronze statue was found at the excavations of the Bottyán-hill. The significance of the trove - as the professor, who conducts the researches of Lussonium stated - is amazing.


Excavations are taking place annually near the border of Dunakömlöd, where once stood a roman military fort, Lussonium. On the last day of this year's excavation - which lasted for 2 months - Ferenc Fazekas, who led the field-works of the research have found the outstanding artefact. The graduate teaching assistant of the University of Pécs said, that they firstly had only noticed the feet, but once his colleague, Antal Szabó unearthed it, they could clearly see, that it was a nearly 70 cm long fragment of a bronze statue, a leg, that they had found.

- It is a great finding, and not just in the phisical reality, but in the moral, cultural and scientific significance - so said dr. Zsolt Visy, the leader of the researches in Lussonium. The professor of the University of Pécs also said, that the statue was an emperor's statue, bigger than size of life and was made from bronze. Altough many stone statues remained from the Roman era, the majority of the bronze statues were shattered or melted in the Middle Age, and used up to create new brass objects. Thus the peculiarity of this object comes from the fact, that it's not a little fragmented piece, but a larger, identifiable piece of the statue. This far in Hungary, only one similar statue fragment - a head of Marcus Aurelius - was found at Dunaszekcs?, back in 1975.

This "treasure" is not only in Hungary comes as a rarity, for example there is only one wholly intact emperor-statue exists, in Rome, the statue of Marcus Aurelius. The statue of Lussonium was certainly not depicting him, but an another emperor. From the ornaments of the shoes, it is suggested, that the statue can be dated to the turn of the II-III. centuries A.D. It could be Septimius Severus' or one of his son's statue - pricipally Caracalla. It's only a mere guessing - said the professor - because the trove is very fresh, and hence there was no time for precise dating yet.

He also said, that - after proper examination - they are going to conserve the fragment, and it will be added to the collection of the Museum of Paks. The excavation's will be continued next year at the area of the roman auxiliary fort. Dr. Zsuzsanna Váradyné Péterfy (the director of the museum) said, that since this is an exceptional piece of artefact, they are going to store and tend it according to it's significance. The "imperial leg" will be on view at the museum's permanent exhibition, catered with adequate protective measures.

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They already found a fragment of an emperor's statue here

It was just 40 years ago, when Dr. Zsolt Visy found a whole diploma militaria, that implied the presence of the roman era fort on the Bottyán-hill, which stands above the river Duna (Danube). The professor is overseeing the excavation's for more than 20 years now, which are supported by the local government of the city of Paks since the beginnings. The fort of Lussonium is the only (partly) reconstructed roman monument of Tolna county. More than 10 years ago (in 1995) another fragment of an emperor's statue was found (a little piece, depicting a piece of attire), but it cannot be known yet if it is coherent with the new one."


That's the text of the whole article...
I think the "leather fragment" is actually the another fragment, which was found in 1995, depicting the clothing...
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#9
The fragment's dating is principally based upon the ornaments of the boot, but i think we have an analogous piece of artefact somewhere from Dacia that can be certainly dated to the reign of the emperor Caracalla...

So again: linking the "leg of Lussonium" fragment to Caracalla is merely a preconception, according to the resemblance of the ornament to to the Dacian trove, and to the fact, that the leg was found in a strata of platter, which contained pottery shards from the turn of the 2nd and 3rd centuries A.D. (not TS).
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Quote:Would you know what the leather fragment shown in the pictures is?
I don't see a leather fragment. :? Where is it?
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#11
It looks organic, but it could as easily be wood as leather.
Scroll the pictures to the right when you open the link.
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#12
I think it's the other fragment from the 1995 excavation, it just lacks any conservation or restauration.
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#13
Hi there,

A small update to anyone who is interested.
The Paks (Dunaköml?d-Lussonium is part of Paks) town museum made a 3D scan version of the leg and made also a hypothetical reconstruction of the whole statue.

Here is a link to moveable views:
http://www.lussonium.hu/3d_rekonstrukci ... onstrukcio

and some still pictures:
http://www.lussonium.hu/galeria?category=64

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#14
I think it is quite a good reconstruction. I have to say though, that when I first saw it, the angle of the knee suggested to me that it might have come from an equestrian statue.

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