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Would you risk your head to prove to the high king that the persian horses might face problems against greek horses?
As for surviving ancient breeds please have the patience to go through this thead:
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The reason that the cavalryman on that stele looks so similar to a Macedonian cavalryman might be because he served alongside them. There is a dedication from Boeotia which records a group of cavalrymen who fought under Alexander, and so this stele might just represent one of those veterans.
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Horses breeds do need the occasssional influx of new blood or else they die out. A modern "thessalian" would be different to the breed 2,300 years ago. The temporary presence of Persian cavalry, then perhaps horses imported from the north, would benefit the breed.
The dedication to Zeus Soter in Orchomenus was made by a group of allied cavalrymen discharged at Ecbatana in 330. They all have wonderful names. Wanaxion is my favourite. But is that dedication linked to this grave stele, except by date and general location?
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Quote: For those reading who have not seen them, here is an example of contemporary persian cavalry. They are not far from what Xenophon suggests.
Is it my imagination, or is the rider in ther right hand image wearing a corinthian?
Sorry, I guess images do not quote.
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Many Persian noble cavalry are depicted with Greek helmets such as crested 'piloi', as well as Tube-and-Yoke corselets and the 'parapleuridae' ( chaps) leg defences.....
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Quote:The dedication to Zeus Soter in Orchomenus was made by a group of allied cavalrymen discharged at Ecbatana in 330. They all have wonderful names. Wanaxion is my favourite. But is that dedication linked to this grave stele, except by date and general location?
No, I am merely stating that the reason this cavalryman looks so much like a Macedonian cavalryman under Alexander is because they fought alongside them.
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......or put another way, Greek/Macedonian cavalry equipment at this time was much rhe same, and one can't pick whether the cavalryman in a particular depiction is Macedonian, Thessalian, Boeotian or Athenian just by looking - which was the point I was making earlier...
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Salve gents,
thanks a lot for this fine and animated discussion -
I will keep you posted on the development of my drawings
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