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Roman camps in France?
#1
Can any of our French colleagues (or anyone else) point me in the direction of Roman marching camps excavated in France? Besides the camps at Alesia and Gergovie, I know only Mauchamp (Berry au Bac). Are there other good examples?

(I have not seen M. Reddé, L'Architecture de la Gaule romaine (2006), which is obviously a major drawback!)
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#2
Well, not a Roman marching camp, but a legionary camp with a 'side-camp': Mirebeau. See R. Goguey and M. Reddé, Le camp légionnaire de Mirebeau, Mainz, 1995. (RGZM Monographien 36)

Greets,

Hans
Flandria me genuit, tenet nunc Roma
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#3
Thanks, Hans -- Mirebeau, I know about. But we seem to have lots of marching camps cropping up in Germany, to go with the hundreds in Britain. But none in France?
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#4
REDDE, M. et alii, 2006: Les fortifications militaires. L'architecture de la Gaule Romaine. DAF 10 has the following:

Estissac 13.4 ha.
Neuville-sur-Vannes, 12 ha.
Petange 12 ha.

I also scanned through L'armée romaine en Gaule. Paris, 1996. They have half a dozen normal forts in France (in addition to the legionary fortresses) from the Imperial period and the following Caesarian camps:

Mauchamp
Catelis
Vendeuil-Caply
Folleville
Chaussee Triancourt
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Jens Horstkotte
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#5
Thanks for having a look, Jens.
Quote:Mauchamp
Catelis
Vendeuil-Caply
Folleville
Chaussee Triancourt
Mauchamp, I knew. Catelis, I think, is the same as Vendeuil-Caply, and looks rather peculiar -- apart from its bizarre shape, there are no gateways! La Chausée-Tirancourt is pretty odd, too. I'd be happier if there had been some excavation to confirm a Roman origin! That leaves Folleville, which I'd forgotten about. At least it looks Roman. I wonder if there has been any excavation there.

Quote:Estissac 13.4 ha.
Neuville-sur-Vannes, 12 ha.
Petange 12 ha.
I didn't know any of these, Jens. So I owe you a karma, if the system is ever reinstated! Smile

As far as I can tell, Estissac (unexcavated) has been suggested as a camp of Aetius (versus Attila)! And at Neuville-sur-Vannes (aka Bréviaire), a v-shaped ditch was confirmed but undated. And I can find nothing on Petange.

It looks as if our French colleagues have been neglecting their Roman military heritage!
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#6
You may also want to check

G. Rapsaet-Charlier, Gallia Belgica et Germania Inferior. Vingt-cinq années de recherches historiques et archéologiques, in : ANRW II 4 (1975).

P. 52/53 lists a few sites. It is available on googlebooks.
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Jens Horstkotte
Munich, Germany
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#7
Quote:It is available on googlebooks.
Thanks, Jens. But I must be doing something wrong. I can't seem to find it there.

But Reddé's articles probably supercede anything she says (her paper was published in 1975).
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#8
Try this:

[url:6a4breq3]http://books.google.de/books?id=JUBkfuu5lpcC&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=camps+campagne+romain&source=bl&ots=cQrGscf698&sig=n9hJuVkealujj-E5gGbduUWksrg&hl=de&ei=PGG3Sq6NCISX_Qb8j9HcDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false[/url]
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Jens Horstkotte
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#9
Many thanks. I must use German Google in future!

Just for the record, here Mme. Raepsaet-Charlier is citing the aerial photography carried out by Roger Agache in the 1960s. I wonder if any of these sites have ever been proved to be Caesarian.
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