Criss-crossed belts

[Crispvs]

It might also be worth noting that the apron seems to be somehow fixed behind the buckles. How is this done? Could four straps be attached to the end of each belt? Any other suggestions?

Crispvs

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Thats what I thought. Or just artisitic boo-boo?

[Neuraleanus]

For Halloween the members of Legio XXX, cohort III got together at an Italian restaurant. Here is a closeup of me wearing the criss-crossed belts:[attachment=0:1mrp4g1r]<!-- ia0 crisscrossedbelts2.jpg<!-- ia0 [/attachment:1mrp4g1r]

I used the crossed-leather strap arrangement to suspend the gladius.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Nice ! We were supposed to hit the town too, but rain dissuaded me... :roll:

[A_Volpe]

Caius Fabius

OOOH! Interesting images! I find the pugio hilt and handle very intriguing!

I too have been wondering about the danglium and how it goes on the belt, and this particular example doesn't seem to have the large 'crescent' shaped terminals I had considered "typical"

I also like the arrangement of the buckles, going in opposite directions.

I love 're-examining' and 're-discovering' this stuff, although it's also sort of frustrating to have to reconsider previous 'standards', but hey, welcome to Reenacting

[Neuraleanus]

The dagger on the second stele looks like this one from the Herculaneum miles:[attachment=0:1zl5paht]<!-- ia0 HerculaeumDagger.jpg<!-- ia0 [/attachment:1zl5paht]

[Crispvs]

Yes, that had occurred to me, but it looks to be intended to be a fairly normal size for a pugio. The Herculanium example looks very much like a Mainz type sword which has been broken and recycled as a pugio. Of course, this may have been a not uncommon practice for all we know.
I am also very interested in the suspension. Although it is possible that we are dealing here with a sculptor who was not as familiar with army equipment as most Rhineland stele sculptors obviously were, it is also possible that we are looking at something genuine which we have not so far identified from the archaeological record. The sheath apears to be a frame type of some sort but there are no suspension rings or lugs shown. There is, however a 'button' a short distance away on the belt, which may be in some way connected with the suspension. Hmm interesting. You never know what will be seen when someone publishes a new stone. hock:

OT but equally interesting, it apears that red? paint survives on the sword scabbard. Does anyone know if this stone has been analysed for paint residues? If so do we know the findings? If it has not been analysed it certainly seems like a very worthy candidate for a closer look at its original colours.

Crispvs

[PhilusEstilius]

Crispvs.

I've just been looking at the statue that shows what appears to be the apron coming down behind the belts and buckles, if we look above the belts we find a rectangular type block or maybe a plate of sorts.
I have seen this in other situations of front views of soldiers showing the apron can it be that an apron was completely disconnected from any belt in some other fashion interesting.

[Crispvs]

It's always possible. After all, the soldiers shown apparently in action on one of the Mainz column bases do not seen to have aprons and neither do any of the soldiers shown on the Adamklissi metopes.

Crispvs

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

My belt has the apron attached in a manner tha tallows it to be dissconnected!