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Name that emperor
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07-17-2009, 10:40 AM
The photo below was made in the museum of Carthage. But who is this guy? He has a crown of a type common in the early second century (compare this Trajan), and at first sight, I'd say this is Hadrian. But Hadrian's head was rounder; this man has a "long" head. Besides, his beard has two points (like Septimius Severus). But the man does not resemble the African emperor either. Anyone any thoughts?
07-17-2009, 12:26 PM
Quote:But Hadrian's head was rounder; this man has a "long" head.Were all statues of emperor's lifelike? What if the artist was asked to make omne for an upcoming visit, but had never seen the man before?
Robert Vermaat
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07-17-2009, 01:55 PM
Based purely on the looks of the statue he looks like Lucius Verus in my opinion...
Virilis / Jyrki Halme
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07-17-2009, 02:01 PM
Quote:Were all statues of emperor's lifelike? What if the artist was asked to make omne for an upcoming visit, but had never seen the man before?The emperors sent moulds and there was serie production. Therefore, portraits made in Eburacum and Aelia Capitolina could be more or less identical. Cf the reconstruction of the sculptor's workshop in Orientalis below, where our friend Jurjen works. Quote:Based purely on the looks of the statue he looks like Lucius Verus in my opinion...Slightly forked beard and no moustache: you may be right. 
07-17-2009, 02:47 PM
Quote:Based purely on the looks of the statue he looks like Lucius Verus in my opinion...Just tuned in ... and my immediate reaction was Lucius Verus, too. 
07-17-2009, 03:20 PM
Quote:my immediate reaction was Lucius Verus, too.That's indeed reassuring. If two people immediately think of the same name, it must be correct. 
07-17-2009, 05:46 PM
I have just come in on this topic but would say that I don't think it is Verus for he has a much more rounded beard and not realy forked.
Brian Stobbs
07-17-2009, 07:04 PM
Hi
My initial reaction was that it was Lucius Verus too. However looking at a photograph of a bust of Severus that I have, I am not so sure now. The face and beard look similar although the hairstyle is not the same. Given the African context perhaps Severus is the slightly better bet....perhaps....possibly! Graham.
"Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allan Poe.
"Every brush-stroke is torn from my body" The Rebel, Tony Hancock. "..I sweated in that damn dirty armor....TWENTY YEARS!', Charlton Heston, The Warlord.
07-17-2009, 07:26 PM
Lucius Verus - Severus 2 : 1
Anyone else? 
07-17-2009, 07:33 PM
It has to be Lucius Verus. Spittin' image:
![[Image: lucius_verus.jpg]](http://www.livius.org/a/1/emperors/lucius_verus.jpg)
07-17-2009, 07:53 PM
Quote:It has to be Lucius Verus. Spittin' image:Strange, I've seen that face before... My own photo! The beard is indeed a bit forked, and both men have no moustache. 3 : 1
07-17-2009, 08:15 PM
Hi
Well if you Google Lucius Verus, a full length figure very similar to the top picture comes up in the Bardo Museum. Does that settle it? (Page 3 Google Images). Mind you page 4 has Stephen Boyd!!! Graham. P.S Again on page 3 under Livius.org is a portrait labelled 'Lucius Verus'. I have the same portrait in a book that says it is Marcus Aurelius! Is it the ancient portrait artists who confuse these things or modern commentators?
"Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream" Edgar Allan Poe.
"Every brush-stroke is torn from my body" The Rebel, Tony Hancock. "..I sweated in that damn dirty armor....TWENTY YEARS!', Charlton Heston, The Warlord.
07-17-2009, 08:45 PM
Quote:Well if you Google Lucius Verus, a full length figure very similar to the top picture comes up in the Bardo Museum. Does that settle it? (Page 3 Google Images).That's our guy, even though he has mysteriously grown a body. Probably, the head doesn't belong to the torso. Quote:P.S Again on page 3 under Livius.org is a portrait labelled 'Lucius Verus'. I have the same portrait in a book that says it is Marcus Aurelius! Is it the ancient portrait artists who confuse these things or modern commentators?It's an error by Google. It refers to a page that contains photos of several emperors, including both divi fratres.
07-17-2009, 08:58 PM
Quote:... even though he has mysteriously grown a body. Probably, the head doesn't belong to the torso.I think you are right. It's a different colour and slightly too large! 
07-20-2009, 12:55 PM
Ave Fratres,
Have to concur with the folks that say Lucius Verus. For facial recognition we were always taught to concentrate on the T factor. Imagine a Capital T placed over a face. It covers the most salient points for ID, Eye spacing and size and color, size and shape of the nose, shape of the mouth and lips and the chin, prominent or receding. I think when you do a T factor analysis it points , as already noted, to Lucius Verus. That procedure also helps you to remember a face, but for me that is not a problem...anymore I can't remember the names ! Regards from a sunny a breezy beautiful day in the Balkans, Arminius Primus aka Al
ARMINIVS PRIMVS
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