06-21-2009, 12:17 PM
Well, Getae and Dacian are one and the same peoples, as the name Getae being the first time used, by greek writers ( Herodotus ). Wehn Romans meet the same peoples they usualy call them Daci, as they name themselves too ( Dio Cassius said that ). Dacians can be at least a regional group of Getae, something like Romans being a group of Latins who took control over all Latins ( Sabinii, Samnites, etc. ), if you wish. About the Goths and how much they related with Getae ( Dacians ), well, there is sometimes a confusion betwen Dacia of Decebal and all teritories inhabited by Dacians ( Getae ), as was the Dacian empire of Burebista ( there is a map on wikipedia, but that cover just the teritory where was found arheological evidences, in the ancient times the teritory considered as belong to Dacians was bigger ). Dacia of Decebal was smaller ( quite several times ) then one of Burebista, and was some Dacians outside the Decebal kingdom ( who wasnt either conquered all, just a part of it ). So, Dacians ( Getae ) was spread until the Baltic Sea ( dont forget that Herodotus said that Thracians, and Getae was the northern branch of Thracians are the most numerous peoples on Earth, after Indians ), and is very possible to interact and mix there with some Germanic tribes and become know later as Goths. The Goths origins from the begining of Getica of Jordanes is full of fiction too, from the origin from Scandza ( unprouved archeologicaly ) to Huns who are originated from the Goths witches and desert demons.
About the Dacian language, there is no 100 % sure theory of how it was exactly, but for sure Getae ( Dacians ) have a huge impact on Goths, if Goths themselves afirmed that Getae ( Dacians ) are their ancestors ( and not just Jordanes, but independent of him Issidor from Sevilla too, who said that in Spain the Gothic nobels need to prouve, or at least afirm their origin from Getae, and names as Dicineus, Buruista or Zalmoxis was used ). Even later, in medieval times, Carolus Lundius, the president of the University of Upssala write a book called "Zamolxis, primus Getarum legislator",( 1687 ), where he wrote that "Nemp unam eandemque Gentem Getas et Gothas fuisse" - " No doubt that Getae and Goths was one and the same nation", so yes, i think the Getae ( Dacian ) prestige and even heritage was quite big for Goths, and even later for some nordic peoples.
About the Dacian language, there is no 100 % sure theory of how it was exactly, but for sure Getae ( Dacians ) have a huge impact on Goths, if Goths themselves afirmed that Getae ( Dacians ) are their ancestors ( and not just Jordanes, but independent of him Issidor from Sevilla too, who said that in Spain the Gothic nobels need to prouve, or at least afirm their origin from Getae, and names as Dicineus, Buruista or Zalmoxis was used ). Even later, in medieval times, Carolus Lundius, the president of the University of Upssala write a book called "Zamolxis, primus Getarum legislator",( 1687 ), where he wrote that "Nemp unam eandemque Gentem Getas et Gothas fuisse" - " No doubt that Getae and Goths was one and the same nation", so yes, i think the Getae ( Dacian ) prestige and even heritage was quite big for Goths, and even later for some nordic peoples.
Razvan A.
