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There is an interesting article dealing with sauroters in this book: http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr= ... viXNZcMLAg
Bosanquet has to arge that it is not a spearhead. There is a nice diagram showing how hollow it was and made of iron.
Also, here is another very short one, so short it would be difficult to sink it deep enough to hold the spear upright in the ground.
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And here is a beautiful sauroter. I assume that the small hole near the socket is for pinning it to the shaft.
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That is a master piece! Do you have any detailed information on it? Like where it is displayed or where it was found? Thanks for sharing that picture!
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It was in the Met in NY back when the article I found it in was written; "Greek Bronzes Recently Acquired by the Metropolitan Museum of Art", American Journal of Archaeology, Vol. 43, No. 2 (Apr. - Jun., 1939), pp. 189-201, Gisela M. A. Richter.
Here's a second view and detail of the socket. What does the dedication on the side say? Email me if you want the paper.
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I guess we will have to wait for Stefanos or Giannis to decipher the dedication text, I am very interested in this piece. Why do the pictures say sarissa in their description, Is that an early sarissa sarauter? If it can be used for a Dory, I am planning to make a new Dory with a tapered shaft in the coming weeks and this looks like a magnificient sarauter to have attached to it. Without the dedication, of course
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Ha, no it was not for a sarissa. I had cut and pasted a sarissa image previously and just used the same name in MS paint to save it. This is a dory sauroter.
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Exremely crude (really crude) Doric dialect. "IEROS TYN DARILIYS APERAEON" Y is used as U.
It means its a sacred offering of the Epirotan DARILIOS. When its is dated?
The kissos leafs are also interesting. They are never being shown accidentally. (Samotharace Backhix mysteries?)
Paul if yo yhave mail plese can yopu send the Article?
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Hurraaay! Look at this: http://manningimperial.com/item.php?ite ... =1&c_id=14 760g i wish we had some weights of originals.
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Has anyone seen the like of these before or have any further information on them?
Here's the translation of the Hermann Historica page:
Alteuropäisch, 1200 - 1000 bc bronze. Lanzenschuhe cast with winged Spouts (so-called Flügelsaurotere) protecting the wooden shaft and the lances Aufpflanzen before the fight. Length both 27 cm. Metallic excellent Flusspatina with brown. Collection Axel guttman (Inv -No. AG 16 17). Published in: H. Born/P. Hansen, helmets and weapons ancient Europe. Collection Axel Guttmann, Vol. 9, Mainz 2001, figure 113, Tab. 274.
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