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Iage of scutum device
#1
Ave et salutatio:<br>
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I have found an image of a denarius issued during the reign of Antoninvs Pivs. The reverse shows an image that is a near-exact duplicate of the Legio XX VV scutum device.<br>
I would like to attach the image to this message, but I can't figure out how to do it.<br>
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Vale:<br>
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Gaius Octavius Drusus <p></p><i></i>
Michael Garrity
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#2
Not too hard. If you have a web address/url for the image, you can use the 'image' button at the left of the composition screen to enclose the image appropriately. If you need a place to put the image, try photobucket<br>
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www.photobucket.com <p>Legio XX<br>
Caput dolet, pedes fetent, Iesum non amo<br>
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Richard Campbell
Legio XX - Alexandria, Virginia
RAT member #6?
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#3
Start a message in RAT (here), and then:<br>
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Go to the webpage the picture's on. Right click on the image and go down the popup menu list to <Copy image location>.<br>
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Come back to RAT, and in your message click the image button to the left of the type box. When the box with the <type in the URL..> blah blah appears, Press Ctrl-V (paste) on your keyboard and you should see the url for the image pasted in there.<br>
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Click <OK> and the pic will be in your post. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=tarbicus>Tarbicus</A> at: 2/16/05 2:11 am<br></i>
TARBICvS/Jim Bowers
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#4
Ave et salutatio:<br>
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If I have done everything correctly, the image should appear in this message.<br>
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Gaius<br>
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<img src="http://Acoinimage.jpg" style="border:0;"/> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gaiusoctaviusdrusus@romanarmytalk>Gaius Octavius Drusus</A> at: 2/16/05 5:20 pm<br></i>
Michael Garrity
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#5
Nope...can't see it. Can you provide a URL for the site with the image? Or is this something you scanned out of a book? I would love to see it. Maybe you could email it to those interested? <p></p><i></i>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.redrampant.com">www.redrampant.com
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#6
Check if you have ezPost/ezCodes enabled. <p>Greets<br>
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Jasper</p><i></i>
Greets!

Jasper Oorthuys
Webmaster & Editor, Ancient Warfare magazine
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#7
Ave et salutatio:<br>
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How do I check to see if the ez codes are operating? I have done exactly as suggested, and the image will still not attach to the message.<br>
In any case, if someone more able that I is able to do it, the image in question is to be found at www.edgarlowen.com Go to the left of the web page and click on the phrase 'New Items' Go to the top of the page that comes up and click on the title "Roman & Early Coins' After the next page come up, scroll downwards to #7687. The image is of a denarius issued during the reign of Antoninus Pius; the legend on the reverse reads PROVIDENTIAE DEORUM (foresight of the gods).<br>
I have saved a copy of the image on disk; I'll e-mail it to anyone that wants it.<br>
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Salve et magna gratias:<br>
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Gaius Octavius Drusus <p></p><i></i>
Michael Garrity
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#8
This oughta do it:<br>
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/DannoUlpius/b7687.jpg"/><br>
"7687. ANTONINUS PIUS, 138-161 AD. AR Denarius, HRIC 37. /PROVIDENTIA DEOVRM (foresight of the gods), ornate thunderbolt. EF+. Scarce. Choice sharply struck example. $450 estimate."<br>
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While I was there, I happened upon this sling bullet with a similar design...<br>
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/DannoUlpius/b7775.jpg"/><br>
7775. ROMAN SLING BULLET, meade of lead. The bullet is decorated with a clear thunderbolt. Nice example. 3.3 cm $150 estimate. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dannoulpius>Danno Ulpius</A> at: 2/16/05 6:40 pm<br></i>
Dan Diffendale
Ph.D. candidate, University of Michigan
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#9
Ave et salutatio Danno Ulpius:<br>
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Many thanks for posting that picture. I think the resemblance to the Legio XX VV scutum emblem is uncanny. I also agree with you that the device on the coin and the one on the sling bullet are quite similar. The only point of difference that I can see is that the center of the device on the coin looks like a handle, while the center of the device on the sling bullet looks like a shield boss.<br>
While on the subject of the denarius, I'd like to point out that I believe that there is a 'E' at the end of the word 'Providentia' on the rear of the coin; it looks as if the lower bar of the 'E' was either worn off (unlikely, considering the condition of the rest of the coin) or was omitted due to a flaw in the die used to strike it.<br>
The inscription on the front should read as follows:<br>
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ANTONINUSAUGPIUSPPTRPCOSIII<br>
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"Antoninus, Augustus Pius, Pater Patriae (father of his country), Tribunicia Potestas (holder of the tribunician power), Cos III (three times consul)<br>
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The more I see of coins like this one, the more I am amazed that some have survived in such excellent condition. If you look closely, you can even see the flow patterns in the surface of the coin..<br>
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Salve et magna gratias:<br>
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Gaius Octavius Drusus <p></p><i></i>
Michael Garrity
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#10
Sorry, never knew the Romans left a calling card<br>
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So, who would your ancient Robert Duvall be, loving the smell of Greek fire in the morning? <p></p><i></i>
TARBICvS/Jim Bowers
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#11
It would be either Julius Caesar or Augustus..<br>
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Gaius <p></p><i></i>
Michael Garrity
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#12
What you've gotten is an ancient thunderbolt, plain and simple.<br>
We draw it as a zigzag. They drew it as a double-prong (and sometimes with wings) and a grip in the middle, for Jove to throw it.<br>
Here's a coin from Epirus of 340 BC. Thunderbolt on the left.<br>
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/vincula/sg1979.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
Here's a coin from Tarentum of 280 BC. Owl on the right is standing on a thunderbolt.<br>
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/vincula/Vlasto_1068ff.jpg" style="border:0;"/><br>
The same emblem is found on sling bullets for obvious reasons. <p></p><i></i>
** Vincula/Lucy **
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#13
Here are some more "winged fulmen (thunderbolt)" shield motifs:<br>
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Denarius of Q. Minucius Thermus, 103 BC:<br>
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<img src="http://www.legionsix.org/KVA0455.jpg" style="border:0;"/> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p200.ezboard.com/bromanarmytalk.showUserPublicProfile?gid=flaviuscrispus@romanarmytalk>FlaviusCrispus</A> <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/legiovi/vwp?.dir=/Flavius+photo&.src=gr&.dnm=flavhead2.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 2/18/05 8:15 am<br></i>
T. Flavius Crispus / David S. Michaels
Centurio Pilus Prior,
Legio VI VPF
CA, USA

"Oderint dum probent."
Tiberius
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#14
Salve Drusus,<br>
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Sorry to jump into this so late but I'm trying to make sense of your opening comments "a near-exact duplicate of the Legio XX VV scutum device". By this do you mean it looks like the Scutum emblem employed by some of the LEG XX VV re-enactment groups? or rather you beleive this to be the same as the original LEG XX VV used?<br>
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Out of interest we portray LEG XX VV but we use a laurel wreath emblem, for Victory.<br>
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Vale<br>
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Mummius <p></p><i></i>
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