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Shield emblem for my 5th c. hoplite impression
#1
Hi folks!
I was wondering if someone could comment on my choice. Since my hometown is Füssen, and this is my hometown´s coat of arms:
[Image: 335px-Wappen_Fuessen.svg.png]
I thought it would be nice to have a yellow shield background and a black three-foot design on it. Is this a possible / sensible choice?
Christian K.

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#2
Here is a list of vases with Triskeles that might be of help. Its from that Brazilian thesis on shield blazons posted on another thread.
Paul M. Bardunias
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#3
I found this after googling "triskeles" Christian:

http://www.mcdonald.cam.ac.uk/history/

Doesn't give much as to where the actual reference was from, but it may point you in the right direction, and that looks pretty similar to yours.
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Magnus/Matt
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#4
Matt: thanks a lot! it is funny that the Isle of Man and Füssen have an identical symbol Big Grin

I scanned the Beazley Database (Thanks for the pic, Paul, I cannot access the articl from Germany, sowas quite happy) for depictions of Triskeles on shields now, and found several shield designs of light backgrounds with black triskeles on them. I assume that not all shields had a bronze facing, so I guess I´ll go for my yellow-black thingy. Smile
I´ll use Kasein paint and seal with wax.
I wonder if I should cover the shield facing with rawhide? Would make sense, no? Bronze rim? Or is there vidence for shields without at least a bronze rim?

Big Grin
Christian K.

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#5
There are many vases with a triskelis emblem. They all look like this:
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I'm not sure but i usually remember a light,some times white triskelis on dark background.
Khaire
Giannis
Giannis K. Hoplite
a.k.a.:Giannis Kadoglou
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#6
Is is interesting that the "triskelon" appears in areas rich with water or islands.
Medieval Sicely had a "triskelon" with a "gorgoneion"(!!) on its coat of arms
Isle of Man has it also on tis coat of arms.
Some pottery from "Magna Gretsia" has fish forming a "triskelon" and they come from cities blesses with water abudanse.

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#7
How about this?

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/luke/ueda-sarson ... rns_1.html

Dozens of patterns there, organized by period.
Pedro Pereira
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#8
Here is a nice archaic version from the Athens Archaeological Museum: [url:31qxz4i6]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Hoplite_fight_from_Athens_Museum.jpg[/url]

Athena atacks Encaladus Ca. 499 BC : [url:31qxz4i6]http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/dgkeysearchdetail.cfm?trg=1&strucID=1761956&imageID=1623571&total=2&num=0&word=Gigantomachy%20(Greek%20mythology)&s=3&notword=&d=&c=&f=2&k=0&lWord=&lField=&sScope=&sLevel=&sLabel=&imgs=20&pos=2&e=w[/url]

Achilles dragging Hektor past the tomb of Patroklos Ca: 520-510 BC: [url][http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ima...4.0345/url]

Coin from Aspendos, Ca. 420 - 370 BC: [url:31qxz4i6]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-myj9zDrthU/SAsUI76_35I/AAAAAAAAADc/wK_ko6W4Qp0/S1600-R/image00136_b.jpg[/url]

The Derrones- Thraco-Macedonian Tribes coin. Ca.480-465 BC:
[url:31qxz4i6]http://imagedb.coinarchives.com/img/stacks/stacks_apr09/image01045.jpg[/url]

Syracuse, Sicily Ca. 317-289 BC: [url:31qxz4i6]http://www.ancientimports.com/cgi-bin/lotinfo.pl?id=20104[/url]

The triskelion is a safe bet for a wide geographic area and a broad time band - the 5th C isn't a problem.
Peter Raftos
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