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Midget Roman shoes
#31
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Magnus:1tzp30lp Wrote:That's actually a really good idea...shoes for kids...Some legionary parents I'm sure would be interested!

I know there is a big demand for children shoes, I made several medieval ones.
Two years ago I made these for an "Iron age" couple as a Birth present, its a size 18 (2.5 U.S.)

I will need to make some footwear decisions this winter if my two sons (11 and 10) and a cousin of theirs (will be 12) are going to be involved in re-enactment. Being new to re-enacting, I have a few questions specifically about shoes/sandals.

It appears the iron age shoes are carbatinae according to the jpg. That shoe would be accurate according to the members' posts in the thread on children and re-enactment.

The various solae shown in the subsequent posts to that quoted might be a) less expensive as starters, and b) accurate as a "camp shoe" for children (?). The boys really seem to like the caligae as I mentioned - those are more masculine - but they are too young to be soldiers in a re-enactment. I doubt either my wife or my brother-in-law are hot to spend $100 a pair for kid sandals to wear to a couple of events - if that.

The Commanchio sole pattern looks like a more feminine sandal - dainty and narrow in the heel. My daughter might have even liked those, but she will be 14 later this year, and I think we have lost her (field hockey; swimming team; hanging out Smile ).

The kids would get more use from carbatinae, I suppose. From what I have been reading those are easily adjustable for some growth with the kids' feet. If not, are the solae shown accurate for boys to have around a camp setting? Are they too feminine?

Any help is appreciated.
Mike Benedict
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#32
Quote:Thanks to Kineas who posted an image of the statue of Tib. Claudius Brasidas.[attachment=0:2bg9mn27]<!-- ia0 IMG_3574.jpg<!-- ia0 [/attachment:2bg9mn27]

This one is unusual. Is it a boy's shoe?
Mike Benedict
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#33
Sutoris,

I clicked on your link for legioxi earlier, and I came across photos of the young man in a military (red anyway) tunic accompanying soldiers in bare feet. That brings up a question for children re-enacting, especially around a camp setting. Is the barefoot boy portraying a particular functionary with the army? As he is without footwear, is he a slave or servant?

Thanks for the help.
Mike Benedict
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#34
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Sutoris:bee7kzsa Wrote:Thanks to Kineas who posted an image of the statue of Tib. Claudius Brasidas.[attachment=0:bee7kzsa]<!-- ia0 IMG_3574.jpg<!-- ia0 [/attachment:bee7kzsa]

This one is unusual. Is it a boy's shoe?

Everything about this shoe you can find in this topic.
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#35
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Chlodovicus:2u8cc2xg Wrote:
Sutoris:2u8cc2xg Wrote:Thanks to Kineas who posted an image of the statue of Tib. Claudius Brasidas.[attachment=0:2u8cc2xg]<!-- ia0 IMG_3574.jpg<!-- ia0 [/attachment:2u8cc2xg]

This one is unusual. Is it a boy's shoe?

Everything about this shoe you can find in this topic.
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Thanks, Filip.
Mike Benedict
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#36
Quote:I will need to make some footwear decisions this winter if my two sons (11 and 10) and a cousin of theirs (will be 12) are going to be involved in re-enactment. Being new to re-enacting, I have a few questions specifically about shoes/sandals.

It appears the iron age shoes are carbatinae according to the jpg. That shoe would be accurate according to the members' posts in the thread on children and re-enactment.

The Commanchio sole pattern looks like a more feminine sandal - dainty and narrow in the heel. The kids would get more use from carbatinae, I suppose. From what I have been reading those are easily adjustable for some growth with the kids' feet. If not, are the solae shown accurate for boys to have around a camp setting? Are they too feminine?
No Caligae for kids!
Carbatinae would be the best choice for kids and you can adjust them for some growth.
It's not to difficult to make.
The "Mainz" solea would also be ok if the weather is fine :wink:
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#37
Quote:Sutoris,

I clicked on your link for legioxi earlier, and I came across photos of the young man in a military (red anyway) tunic accompanying soldiers in bare feet. That brings up a question for children re-enacting, especially around a camp setting. Is the barefoot boy portraying a particular function with the army? As he is without footwear, is he a slave or servant?

Thanks for the help.

I think part of the question is answered by the horn in the photograph. Although it is neither cornu nor buccina (perhaps a trumpet?), it seems he is portraying a signalist. I thought cornicines were all experienced soldiers and not boys, but I may be mistaken. Would the cornicen have a boy to carry the instrument? That may be a role for a child.

I imagine he could wear whatever shoes are appropriate for the event, but was surprised this boy was marching with the soldiers in bare feet. Just asking.
Mike Benedict
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#38
Finaly I made some new calcei for my display.


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#39
Well the rich and important officials or officers like Germanicus might get there sons the whole outfit including the military boots! Photo grandson Chris on winter gate guard duty at Castra Clarksville.


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#40
Sutoris, can you pls post some patterns? I've spent several hours trying to make calcei for my son (2 1/2 yo) and had to make too many corrections due to the leather not folding as I expected (yes, I am a newbie in this too :-)). Not to mention that the shoes are so small and it need to be so precise.
www.romaiv.com - a Roman town in Australia? Why not?
Man saying it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it. (Chinese proverb)
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#41
Hi Chris, he stands guard so you can take some R&R :grin:

Hi Pavel, making a calcei require a last.

Here a tutorial

http://www.photoshop.com/users/indomosut...5824d5028d
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#42
There's also the possibility of using 'Florentius.com.' He makes calcei with and without lasts.
John Lucas
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#43
Here a picture of the Midget shoe display.
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#44
Here a picture of the shoe display
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#45
Single layer sandal, St Magnus House, London, 3C
Upper strapwork was missing.

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