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News that I read on "Archaeonews"-blogspot.
(Referring hereto: [url:1380h3ap]http://www.hna.de/hptopnews/00_20081210131500_Sensationsfund_im_Landkreis_Northeim_Antikes_S.html[/url])
Excavations at Kalefeld near Northeim [northeast of Göttingen, that is]
([url:1380h3ap]http://maps.google.de/maps?hl=de&num=100&as_epq=Northeim&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&cr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images&q=%22Northeim%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=image[/url])
seem to reveal a battleground from the 3rd Century A.D. between --- you may have already guesssed that --- Germans and Romans.
Quote: County Chief Archeologist Dr. Ptera Lönne says it's a "find of the century" in a European Context demonstrating that 200 years after the Varus Battle Roman Empereors still had maintained their capability of exercising military operations on a grand scale in the inner part of "Germania Libera" [ term used by me for clarification].
They have made about 600 finds including a major amount of weapons to prove this case. The excavations have taken place secretly during the recent past .
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It's PETRA Lönne, of course. :wink:
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More information on monday - unless there are more local politicians who can´t keep their mouth shut... :evil:
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Are there any updates on the finds?
What artefacts did they find?
This is quite interesting.
Uwe and Virilis reminded me of it in another post, thanks.
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great! can't wait for a more accurate dating (some new equipment would be nice as well).
Ancient sources do mention several operations beyond the limes but I wouldn't have expected them to penetrate that deep in the 3rd century. I mean that spot is about 300km away from the next Roman boarder? (just a guess after a quick look at the map). Impressive!
Any hints as to which operation this could have been? early 3rd? middle? (quite unlikely because of the smaller forces used at that time I guess).
So who could have been there? Maximinus Thrax maybe? *excited*
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How do they know it's 200 AD? Are they sure?
Where is that in Germany? Can you give me a town nearby so i can google the place?
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Quote:Where is that in Germany? Can you give me a town nearby so i can google the place?
Quote:Excavations at Kalefeld near Northeim [northeast of Göttingen, that is]
([url:2xacgz6i]http://maps.google.de/maps?hl=de&num=100&as_epq=Northeim&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&cr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images&q=%22Northeim%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=image[/url])
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Press conference on monday
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That's too bad, Marian. I saw in the article that there are fears of looting. Hopefully it can be protected.
Well, I for one really envy you. That must have been wonderful to work on the site. We'll be waiting eagerly for the Monday press conference!
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Quote:Severus:1xp8fbo9 Wrote:Where is that in Germany? Can you give me a town nearby so i can google the place?
Quote:Excavations at Kalefeld near Northeim [northeast of Göttingen, that is]
([url:1xp8fbo9]http://maps.google.de/maps?hl=de&num=100&as_epq=Northeim&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&cr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images&q=%22Northeim%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=image[/url])
Thanks. Didn't noticed. :roll:
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Hi All,
I also came across this:
http://www.thelocal.de/sci-tech/20081211-16075.html
Ancient Roman battlefield excavated in Lower Saxony
Published: 11 Dec 08 16:13 CET
Archaeologists have discovered an ancient roman battlefield from the third century near Göttingen that will rewrite history, Lower Saxony's department for preservation of historical monuments said on Thursday.
http://www.thelocal.de/sci-tech/20081211-16075.html
“The find can be dated to the third century and will definitely change the historical perception of that time,â€
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Hi y'all ,
....seems inevitably to raise one question: "When EXACTLY ?!" :wink:
If I got all the statements right, they're are talking (amongst other things)about the Romans beieng the winner and leaving weapons on the battleground.
Sounds like a case of "Pyrrhean Victory" to me. :roll:
Thanks , Marian, for putting me one step further.
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