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How To.. wear the Pugio and Gladius (belts, fasteners)
Certainly tidier than my way
Visne partem mei capere? Comminus agamus! * Me semper rogo, Quid faceret Iulius Caesar? * Confidence is a good thing! Overconfidence is too much of a good thing.
[b]Legio XIIII GMV. (Q. Magivs)RMRS Remember Atuatuca! Vengence will be ours!
Titus Flavius Germanus
Batavian Coh I
Byron Angel
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...But that squamata is a little visually distracting. Why don't you mail it to me, and I'll take care of it for you? :wink: :lol:
M. Demetrius Abicio
(David Wills)

Saepe veritas est dura.
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Very nice Frater Peronis,

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I was actually meaning to refer to:

"short straps connected to widely spaced frogs which caused them to hang below the line of the belt"

Your frogs are not widely spaced and the straps you have been using do not cause the sheath to hang below the line of the belt. Therefore I think it is a good potential solution to the problem of suspension, as long as it is secure. You probably noted that I did also throw up the possibility that thonging was not the only possible solution.

As I said, I should have been clearer. Believe it or not, I was trying to be brief. :wink:

Crispvs
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I don't know why everyone's hating on the wooden toggles; it seems like a pretty valid low-tech solution - especially if you're making an in-the-field repair and you don't have access to a brass closure. Wood rots, so I'm not terribly surprised there's nothing to present. I get the button-hole point, so I went with leather closures offset from the edge to leave as little gap in my paenula as possible. In hindsight I suppose I could have sewn the leather loops on the inside, however I think this would 'tent' the closure edge and not look right...
-Ryan

-Cave a sinistra manu utebatur pro bellator.
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A bit of thread necromancy but, In my experience what is done on parade and in barracks isn't what's done in the field.
Look at images of modern infantry in the field from WW1 up to recent action in Afghanistan and the Gulf.
No two soldiers are are the same, their webbing, pack and equipment all have variations arrived at through use and experience.
Some changes get taken up and propagate through to become official modifications.

Soldiers are soldiers whatever the era, these variations mark a veteran from the new recruit.

All soldiers however like to look their smartest and best when on parade or when a portrait is made be it carving or so these would be the 'regulation' dress.

Official and formal representations tend to show regulation dress, look at all the contemporary paintings of the Napoleonic Wars, see how the troops are depicted, all looking like they just stepped off the parade ground in to battle.


I would expect any sensible legionary or reenactor to find comfortable and reliable ways to wear a belt and sword.
Andy Ross

"The difference between theory and practice is that in theory, there's no difference"
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Well, it is probably true that no two Roman soldiers looked the same. However, it is also true that they were remarkably consistent about some things. When it comes to pugio suspension, ALL the evidence barring a single piece, shows to to have been done the same way, using only the upper two suspension rings. Presumably it was a way which long experience had shown it to work well. Neither the sculptural evidence or the wear patterns on surviving pieces show that the lower suspension rings were ever used. Rather they show the opposite - that they were not used. As for suspension from straps - forget it. They are a modern idea.

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