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Rome\'s worst military defeat
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When I was talking about the lack of motivation for Romans to join the army I was describing a change in attitudes towards the army in which I believe Christianity played a major part, as the motivation to join the army has changed since the times of the Republic quite drastically, even though troop quantity has been a problem throughout rome's history, Marius's reform of the Roman Army helped to get more troops into the Army, but even then outsiders were used such as Germanic Cavalry during Caesars drive into Gaul. All in all there are many different reasons for the fall of the empire, the Goths were a big reason for its fall and their drive towards Rome was more a conflict between Aleric and the Roman General, than Adrianople, the Goths were happy with their land. Don't overlook however the decay of the Western empire as the Huns were able to drive into the empire and seemingly defeat Roman army after roman army. Even though the Huns eventually dispersed as the Romans won some big battles, it showed that Rome was weakening, and encouraged its old enemies to join the Goths. So the reason for the lack of motivation is unknown, I was not asserting that Christianity was the only cause, but it did change the attitudes of many people, granted though the punishment for not serving, citizens who had the money were more willing to pay themselves out than to serve. <p>THERE ARE NO STUPID PEOPLE, ONLY PEOPLE STUPID ENOUGH TO NOT KNOW WHEN THEY'VE MADE A MISTAKE</p><i></i>
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Re: Rome\'s worst military defeat - by Anonymous - 07-12-2004, 01:54 AM
Re: Rome\'s worst military defeat - by Anonymous - 07-12-2004, 11:15 AM
Re: Rome\'s worst military defeat - by Anonymous - 07-12-2004, 12:01 PM
Re: Rome\'s worst military defeat - by Anonymous - 07-12-2004, 03:51 PM
Re: Rome\'s worst military defeat - by Uwe Bahr - 07-13-2004, 03:46 AM
Re: Rome\'s worst military defeat - by Anonymous - 07-13-2004, 06:30 AM
Re: Rome\'s worst military defeat - by Anonymous - 07-13-2004, 10:26 AM
Re: Rome\'s worst military defeat - by Anonymous - 07-13-2004, 12:44 PM
said this before - by Goffredo - 07-13-2004, 08:22 PM
A touch OT - by Anonymous - 07-14-2004, 08:57 AM
Glory or defeat - by TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS - 07-14-2004, 12:34 PM
Manzikert Roman - by Anonymous - 07-14-2004, 01:49 PM
Re: Manzikert Roman - by Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus - 07-14-2004, 04:31 PM
Re: Manzikert Roman - by drsrob - 07-21-2004, 10:26 AM
exactly - by Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus - 07-21-2004, 04:14 PM
Re: exactly - by taira1180 - 08-18-2004, 08:49 AM
Worst military defeat - by Theodosius the Great - 08-19-2004, 05:26 AM
Re: Worst military defeat - by Robert Vermaat - 08-19-2004, 12:56 PM
Re: Worst military defeat - by Robert Vermaat - 08-20-2004, 01:02 PM
Assimilation - by Theodosius the Great - 08-20-2004, 10:55 PM
Re: Assimilation - by Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus - 08-21-2004, 12:59 AM
Assimilation - by Theodosius the Great - 08-21-2004, 01:29 AM
Re: Assimilation - by Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus - 08-21-2004, 02:29 AM
Re: Assimilation - by Robert Vermaat - 08-22-2004, 05:28 AM
Re: Assimilation - by Theodosius the Great - 08-22-2004, 06:48 AM
Re: Assimilation - by Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus - 08-22-2004, 07:41 PM
Cannae - by Anonymous - 09-02-2004, 07:05 PM

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