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The Votadini exodus to Wales
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Quote:It's harder to prove that in this case. An entity or unkown force of nature could be represented by any 'local' aminal.But by the Iron Age (if not pre-Bronze age) we are looking at the general acceptance of human like deities like the cultures of mainland europe.These seem to be associated with tribes. General gods(often used for natural events) are shared but tribal gods seem to be linked with 'their' people. So the question is why would they continue to use a older form of life force, if they did.

John, I've been thinking about this and it does appear that whilst the Germanic and Scandinavians may have had personalised gods (as did the Romans come to that) they still had a reverence for and belief in the dragon and I doubt - though cannot prove - that theirs came via either the Sarmatians or Romans. The Milky Way was the Worm of Middle Earth for example and we also have the Beowulf dragons. Whilst these are much later, of course, it seems to point to the independent development of the dragon. Feathered serpents of the Aztec point to another:

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...not to mention China of course where it's been around for 5000 years at least. Even in Ireland St Patrick is supposed to have imprisoned them, along with banishing the snakes. Wales used to have a tradition of house serpents (common in many parts of Europe apprently) and it was said that if it was fed human milk it would turn into a Wibber (a type of serpent dragon). Wibbers could often be destructive. There's no way of knowing when this dragon developed however.

My point is that seems to have 'flown in' from all directions and not just the Middle East so there's no reason why it couldn't have been present in Britain, though there's no way of proving it one way or another.

As they say, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Mak
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The Votadini exodus to Wales - by romanonick - 09-15-2008, 11:28 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 09-16-2008, 04:50 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Caturiga - 09-16-2008, 02:54 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 09-22-2008, 04:40 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 09-23-2008, 03:50 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 09-26-2008, 05:58 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 03-28-2009, 07:15 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-29-2009, 12:11 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-29-2009, 12:27 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-29-2009, 02:37 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-29-2009, 05:05 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-29-2009, 05:46 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Agraes - 03-29-2009, 08:56 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Arturus Uriconium - 03-30-2009, 11:02 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-30-2009, 12:54 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 03-31-2009, 01:08 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by dux bellum - 04-21-2009, 09:28 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 07-13-2009, 03:16 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 07-19-2009, 04:37 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Ron Andrea - 08-13-2009, 06:21 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Ron Andrea - 08-13-2009, 07:31 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Ron Andrea - 08-13-2009, 08:07 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Caturiga - 08-14-2009, 08:55 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 08-15-2009, 03:29 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Caturiga - 08-15-2009, 09:33 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 08-16-2009, 08:00 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by romanonick - 08-19-2009, 12:56 AM

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