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The Votadini exodus to Wales
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Indeed Robert has a good point.
I once thought that dragon buckles could be eqated with the Equites Taifali Iuniores; but when you think about it, they could be ubiquitous, traded upon the market, copied by lost-wax founderies as a popular buckle for its time.
"Hey! Cool dude! A real dragon buckle. Where did you get it?"
"From that huckster who sells Rolexes."
I still believe the dragon symbol of Wales came from the Equites Taifali Iuniores, as did the Bear from the E.T. Seniores, especially when there are no records (either visually, artistically, or otherwise) of the dragon in Celtic society before the period of the E.T. The Sauromate Iazyges were related to the Scythians, not to the Sarmatian Alans which included the Taifali, and it seems highly unlikely that their culture could have survived, un-watered, for over three hundred years after they were tossed into Britain by Marcus Aurelius.

If we have a "dragon" influence in later Britain, it came from the last Alano-Goths stationed upon the isle. And it would appear that the legendary "Uher Pendragon" was their leader under the the epithet (Alano-Gothic) of Ufar pandracon, "Chief dragonman," whom was probably Theithfallt (Thiudebalth), the great-grandfather of Arthwyr (the darling of the Welsh for the personage of Arthur), and a Roman officer credited with marrying a daughter of Cunedda (according to precisely-incorrect genealogy, which in this case does appear correct).
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The Votadini exodus to Wales - by romanonick - 09-15-2008, 11:28 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 09-16-2008, 04:50 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Caturiga - 09-16-2008, 02:54 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 09-22-2008, 04:40 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 09-23-2008, 03:50 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 09-26-2008, 05:58 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 03-28-2009, 07:15 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-29-2009, 12:11 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-29-2009, 12:27 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-29-2009, 02:37 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-29-2009, 05:05 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-29-2009, 05:46 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Agraes - 03-29-2009, 08:56 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by fasta - 03-30-2009, 12:54 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 03-31-2009, 01:08 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by dux bellum - 04-21-2009, 09:28 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 07-13-2009, 03:16 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 07-19-2009, 04:37 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Ron Andrea - 08-13-2009, 06:21 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Ron Andrea - 08-13-2009, 07:31 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Ron Andrea - 08-13-2009, 08:07 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Caturiga - 08-14-2009, 08:55 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 08-15-2009, 03:29 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Caturiga - 08-15-2009, 09:33 PM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by Alanus - 08-16-2009, 08:00 AM
Re: The Votadini exodus to Wales - by romanonick - 08-19-2009, 12:56 AM

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