The Votadini exodus to Wales

[Alanus]

to Robert... or anyone, actually

As you point out, the Gododdin did have an impact upon Welsh geographical names. The idea that Cunedda and his boys expelled the Irish "forever" must have been a fancy, designed to conflate his family name. Troops of Romano-Brits were still trying to drive out the Irish in the mid-to-late fifth century, and even then they never did.

Are the names of any of Cunedda's daughters still extant? My interest is the possibility that Thiudebalth married one of them, or one of Ceridig's (which isn't terribly plausible). The info or hint comes from the Truman manuscript in the Iolo collection. I know how you feel about the good old faker, but the Truman ms and the Saints ms do not seem to be in his hand. Facsimilies of the handwriting can be found in the published version. My feeling is that the poetry was his, but the two major records of families and saints were probably authentic... not neccessarily accurate, but authentic. :lol:

Best regards,

Alanus, A.J. Campbell