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So, I know the Extraordinarius was the vanguard of the Republican legion. Did they have any special functions? Also, what kind of helmets would they have worn? Fancier helmets than the standard montefortino?
This is how I am depicting them so far in 0 A.D....
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The infantry furnished by the Allies(Socii) during a call-up were roughly equal in numbers to the Legions, but organised into the various regional cohorts.The Allies also furnished between 2 and 3 times as many cavalry as the Romans themselves.Each consul named 12 Praefecti Sociorum(Prefects of the Allies), equivalent to Legionary Tribunes to command the Allies.
From the assembly/muster present, a selection was made of the best fifth of the infantry, and third of the cavalry, to form the extraordinarii(lit: those outside the ranks/main body).
The extraordinarii pedites formed the vanguard of the army on the march and the Consul's position was just behind them, followed by the right-wing Allies, then the two Roman Legions, then the left-wing Allies.
In a withdrawal, the extraordinarii sometimes brought up the rear.
In the camp, these selected men camped close to the Consul, and were in effect the vanguard, a reserve and a guard similar to later Praetorians.....
Since they were simply selected from those called up, it is highly unlikely that they looked any different to other Allied soldiers, though one might speculate that as a picked force, they might adopt some distinguishing mark .....a field sign of some kind, or crest feathers of a particular colour, say, at all events something that could be quickly adopted on campaign......
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OT - but I can't wait for this game Michael...
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Thanks Magnus/Matt. And thanks guys for the replies. I guess I'll look around Google for some images of interesting Roman helmet designs.
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Game? What game? When, where? :o
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Quote:Game? What game? When, where? :o
Check his signature.
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Those Scotsmen, they are very effective in battle, but need to be shown the direction..
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I ques any other kind of Celtic helmet would do isn't it?
as long as it's somewhere between 400 BC and 100 BC??
Where they recruited from any specific area of Europe?
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Quote:Gaius Julius Caesar:13oszfgz Wrote:Game? What game? When, where? :o
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But just in case:
http://www.wildfiregames.com/0ad
Those Scotsmen, they are very effective in battle, but need to be shown the direction.. twisted:
Battle what battle? where? when?...... :oops:
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The Extraordinarii are fascinating and infuriating, because so little is written about them. It's impossible (for me) to tell from Polibius whether the selected extraordinarii are literally the best fifth of the in infantry individuals, or instead are the best turned out fifth of the allied cohorts. I am inclined to believe that latter, not because I've seen any text supporting it, but just beause it makes sense.
Forming a unit from a bunch of strangers from different towns who don't know each other would actually make the unit less cohesive than one of the standard allied cohorts drawn from a single town. In addition, the allies are not invariably drawn from the Latins, so an ad hoc unit could end up with Oscans, Brutians, Latins and evn Ligurians all mixed up together -- again probably not a recipe for success.
But still, the sources are so vague I'd say you have a lot of freedom to portray them however is best for the game.
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