Vergina tomb artifacts may have belonged to Alexander

[Tantalus]

For anyone who is looking for the above mentioned Borza article, The Royal Macedonian Tombs and the Paraphernalia of Alexander the Great. You can order it online from JSTOR HERE.

It's $10US. (So with the way the economy has been going, what is that now, about 1 Euro? :lol: )

As for the subject of this thread I'm keeping an open mind. And I would be ecstatic if it was true.

Hey, my first post!

[Giannis K. Hoplite]

Thanks and welcome Tantalus! With the way the economy has been going,even with that price anyone would make his best to find it free. Any chances?
I had first heard about the theory that the tomb was Alexander's by a Greek researcher who has written a book and also has a website with interesting info. Search for "The Royal Tomb II in Vergina reveal Alexander the Great". I was not totally convinced by him,but he had some points. And the recent articles may prove him right about some of the artifacts.
Khairete
Giannis

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

I am guessing there is as much chance of this being Alexander the Great's tomb as there is that I am the reincarnation of Gaius Julius Caesar! :?

[Jona Lendering]

I am guessing there is as much chance of this being Alexander the Great's tomb as there is that I am the reincarnation of Gaius Julius Caesar! :?

Indeed. At issue is not whether Alexander III lies there. What is reasonably certain is that it is not Philip II, and probably Philip III Arrhidaeus. Which means that the tomb has eastern influences (lion hunt fresco again), which would not have been there if Alexander hadn't conquered the Middle East. So in a sense you can "see Alexander", even though his tomb was near the Shallalat Gardens in Alexandria.

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Is this the same Phillip who was involved in wars with Rome at the time of the Punic warII?

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Dohhhhhh, I can be pretty thick sometimes...... :oops: of course it was.... :roll:

[Giannis K. Hoplite]

Which means that the tomb has eastern influences (lion hunt fresco again), which would not have been there if Alexander hadn't conquered the Middle East

The eastern influences are actually much more that that,but lay in numerous details that even Andronikos could not explain. The amazing thing is that it is possible some of the objects in the tomb might have been Alexander's himself.
What about the fresco. Couldn't it represent Alexander as the main character of the hunt? After all,Philip III didn't take part in the campaign, and perhaps was not capable of hunting. But such details don't matter in a king's death I guess.
http://tdpapazois.gr/english/alexander.htm It has some info that not all of it may be reliable, but still worth a reading.
Khairete
Giannis

[Lvcivs Commodvs Cicero]

Dang, I thought someone misspelled Virginia.lol. Interesting read none the less.

[Sean Manning]

Since Arrhidaeus is one of those historical figures who drew a bad hand in life, I think this is rather fitting. There's no chance Invincible Alexander will be forgotten, after all, but folks like Arrhidaeus tend to be.

[Paralus]

OLD NEWS. The crucial article was written by Olga Palagia (University of Athens), who in "Hephaestion's Pyre and the Royal Hunt of Alexander" (included in Bosworth/Baynham, Alexander the Great in Fact and Fiction [1999]) proved that the decoration of the Vergina tomb postdated the contact with the Near East.

Absolutely. The book is well worth the read for the other material as much as for this. Further, Green (Classical Bearings – “The Macedonian Connectionâ€

[Paullus Scipio]

Paralus wrote:-
[quote]Diodorus clearly – and more than once – refers to Alexander’s shield in this action as “lighterâ€

[Paralus]

In Diodorus' day (writing some time after 59 BC), the association the pelte with arms "in the Macedonian fashion" was well known, and the Aspis had long since disappeared.

I'm afraid that argument - nice as it seems - won't quite run. If Diodorus, writing in the second half of the first century BC, associates Macedonians – including their king – with being armed in the Macedonian fashion (thus pelte armed), what then of Curtius Rufus? Why might he correctly pick the terminology for a piece of armour “long(er) since disappearedâ€

[Kallimachos]

I'd be curious as to what the German text on Macedonian shields has to say .....anyone know/read it ?

I guess you mean Der makedonische Schild from Katerini Liampi
I am trying to get a copy, the book is out of print. Let you know when I got it.