Flavius Joseph about miles mainly used for non-combat duties

[Luca]

I have read today on an italian reenactors magazine, that Flavius Joseph speaks about a part of the legion mainly used for heavy works as constructions, luggage, etc.<br>
It is intended - following this opinion - they are the miles on the Trajan Column that wear the Segmentata because it is evident that they are mainly used for non-combat duties. While the "true" legionary is the one with the hamata.<br>
<br>
I completely disagree of course with his conclusions, but it is very interesting the piece of Flavius Joseph, who could provide me with both english and latin verses?<br>
Sander? <p></p><i></i>

[Anonymous]

That's one of the most rediculous conclusions i've ever heard of.<br>
<br>
I wonder what he'll say next...red headed legionarys wore Gallic G's? <p>Magnus/Matt<br>
Legio XXX "Ulpia Victrix" Coh I<br>
<br>
"Lay your hand, or thy tongue against the greatness of Rome, and feel my wrath." - Matt Lanteigne<br>
<br>
- Number of posts: current +1248</p><i></i>

[Praefectusclassis]

Well, the Latin version would be a translation as well. You'd need the Greek one. Any refs in Josephus (it's a bit long, you see) <p>Greets<br>
<br>
Jasper</p><i></i>

[Flavius]

Ave Luca,<br>
try this one:<br>
www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/war-3.htm<br>
in:<br>
CHAPTER 5. - A DESCRIPTION OF THE ROMAN ARMIES AND ROMAN CAMPS AND OF OTHER PARTICULARS FOR WHICH THE ROMANS ARE COMMENDED.<br>
<br>
If the italian reenactors magazine is the same one I've read, the author also tells the segmentatae were exclusively made with leather (!), besides other nonsenses.<br>
Not very serious to write, if not harmful, in my opinion...<br>
Vale.<br>
<p>---------<br>
Fecisti patriam diversis gentibus unam;<br>
profuit iniustis te dominante capi;<br>
dumque offers victis proprii consortia iuris,<br>
Urbem fecisti, quod prius orbis erat.<br>
(Rutilius Namatianus - De Reditu Suo, I, 63-66) </p><i></i>

[Luca]

I have found the official web site were these statements are written!<br>
<br>
www.arsdimicandi.it <br>
<br>
english translation is not yet available, but I suggest to use babelfish.<br>
no comment........ <p></p><i></i>

[TITVS SABATINVS AQVILIVS]

<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Valete,<br>
Titus <p></p><i></i>

[Mithras]

Not saying any of this is true, but just imagine if it were ... what would that do to the 2004 re-enactment world?<br>
<br>
Shudder. <p>Paul Elliott<br>
<br>
<strong>Heroes of Delphi</strong> - Classical Greece gone D20<br>
<strong>Zenobia</strong> - Fantasy RPG in the Eastern Roman Empire<br>
<strong>Warlords of Alexander</strong> - Kingdoms in conflict for the ruins of Alexander's Empire<br>
<br>
www.geocities.com/mithrapolis/games.html</p><i></i>

[Anonymous]

Yep.. I stumbled upon that site not so long ago but I thought best not to mention it.<br>
<br>
But, well, let's put it in perspective: some people think the pyramids were built by aliens, others believe Atlantis did lie at one time in the middle or the Atlantic Ocean, and so on..<br>
<p></p><i></i>

[Vincula]

I don't see anything about Josephus on that site.<br>
Is it the Roman army page? <p></p><i></i>

[Anonymous]

Josephus.......<br>
<br>
was a very annoying little man.........<br>
<br>
sucked up to his masters, betrayed the lot of the freedom-fighters, and boasted on a lot of his own actions.....<br>
<br>
No..... I'd rather believe VON DANIKEN at any time.....<br>
<br>
hahahahahahahahahahaha<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<p><span style="color:yellow;font-family:times new roman;font-size:medium;">M.VIB.M.<br>
V COH II<br>
LEGIO X GEMINA<br>
EX GER INF</span></p><i></i>