04-13-2008, 07:14 PM
Hoplomacus helmet
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04-13-2008, 08:13 PM
Bello lavoro!
One question. How do you made the border? I always be intrigued about that.
Cesar Pocinya
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04-14-2008, 07:57 AM
Very nice helmet. Well done!
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Jvrjenivs Peregrinvs Magnvs / FEBRVARIVS A.K.A. Jurjen Draaisma CORBVLO and Fectio ALA I BATAVORUM
04-14-2008, 10:31 AM
Thanks
Quote:Bello lavoro! The board is made with double-woven wire and wrought iron hot.I do so because I do not like the folded sheet. Valete
04-14-2008, 11:00 AM
I would like to know how you fix the twisted wire boader to the metal, a little more information would be very interesting. I am a Roman armourer or rather I like to think so after having made this kind of thing for some 30years now.
Brian Stobbs
04-14-2008, 11:33 AM
An the twisted wire are then soldered to the helmet?
Cesar Pocinya
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04-14-2008, 11:49 AM
Nice Helmet.
2mm thick is quite suitable for full contact combat. But isn't the decorative rim 15th/16th century ? Or is there a surviving hoplomacus helmet whith such a rim.
Regards
Garrelt ----------------------------------------------------- Living History Group Teuxandrii Taberna Germanica Numerus I Exploratores Teuxandrii (Pedites et Equites) Ludus Gladiatorii Gunsula Jomsborg Elag Hrafntrae
04-14-2008, 01:49 PM
There is just one complete example of this helmet which is on display in the Pergamonmuseum Berlin with a matching short greave:
[url:1uq1ubzd]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/2005-12-28_Berlin_Pergamon_museum_Gladiator_helmet.jpg[/url] Junkelmann consideres the Berlin example a late advancement of a Murmillo helmet. Similar constructed helmets with a griffin protone are depicted in iconography and pottery. Visor grates matching the Berlin example have also been found in London, Budapest and Carnuntum.
Olaf Küppers - Histotainment, Event und Promotion - Germany
04-14-2008, 02:22 PM
OHHH! All the surface of the helmet is covered in a grill pattern "punctim".
Crono?
Cesar Pocinya
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04-14-2008, 07:52 PM
Quote:Nice Helmet.Yes, the helmet is for full contact. At the top of the cap reaches 2.5 mm thick Indeed, the wire is twisted an aesthetic choice. It 'was a beautiful experience Quote:An the twisted wire are then soldered to the helmet?It is welded with hot pasta and sealing beating Valete Quote:There is just one complete example of this helmet which is on display in the Pergamonmuseum Berlin: Right, I found this on this site And says:A finely decorated bronze two-piece visor of Murmillo gladiator helmet. 1st - 2nd century AD. (British Museum).
04-15-2008, 07:15 AM
Quote:Indeed, the wire is twisted an aesthetic choice. Ok, that is clear. Are you also going to make an other version without the crest, which you sometimes see on a mosaic? Or is this a completly different helmet.?
Regards
Garrelt ----------------------------------------------------- Living History Group Teuxandrii Taberna Germanica Numerus I Exploratores Teuxandrii (Pedites et Equites) Ludus Gladiatorii Gunsula Jomsborg Elag Hrafntrae
04-15-2008, 10:41 AM
Quote:Are you also going to make an other version without the crest, which you sometimes see on a mosaic? No, it was a different helmet, generally provocator
04-15-2008, 06:43 PM
Like Olaf had already pointed out the helmet is a murmillo helmet, by the shape Junkelmann (in his old edition) dates it to late 2nd/early 3rd century. Murmillo helmets can be easily identified by the angled crest while hoplomachus and thraex helmets have a curved crest decorated very often with a griffin protome.
If you follow hephestus's link in his first post, it definitely says on his homepage Murmillo.
04-15-2008, 07:09 PM
Quote:Like Olaf had already pointed out the helmet is a murmillo helmet, by the shape Junkelmann (in his old edition) dates it to late 2nd/early 3rd century. Murmillo helmets can be easily identified by the angled crest while hoplomachus and thraex helmets have a curved crest decorated very often with a griffin protome.Ave Domina, You are right, this is what I think also, but there are many different versions. I agree with the version of Junkelmann. That is why I called it in my web site "Murmillo" Vale |
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