04-15-2008, 03:29 AM
Quote:Although Michael/Paralus and I differ a little, ( I have tried to deduce numbers in a little more detail), we are assuredly in concord and broad agreement overall !!
Nice to know. I would award you a laudes if it didn't appear as though it were only because you agreed with me!
I was far too lazy to do the accounting: I loathe "bookwork"! The numbers are as I've argued: there is no way that the Spartan army was - or appered to be - larger on the basis of the figures as Thucydides renders them. It appears he speaks of lochoi rather than mora. That accepted, it all begins to make sense.
There is, to my mind, no doubt that the perioikoi were brigaded with homoioi by Pylos at the absolute latest. Most likey some good time earlier -- at a time when the 'obal' army transitioned to the 'moral' army one would logically think. To put a date on that is mighty taxing though...
Paralus|Michael Park
Ἐπὶ τοὺς πατέρας, ὦ κακαὶ κεφαλαί, τοὺς μετὰ Φιλίππου καὶ Ἀλεξάνδρου τὰ ὅλα κατειργασμένους
Wicked men, you are sinning against your fathers, who conquered the whole world under Philip and Alexander!
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Ἐπὶ τοὺς πατέρας, ὦ κακαὶ κεφαλαί, τοὺς μετὰ Φιλίππου καὶ Ἀλεξάνδρου τὰ ὅλα κατειργασμένους
Wicked men, you are sinning against your fathers, who conquered the whole world under Philip and Alexander!
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