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the century - fighting unit
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Quote:The nominal number of 80 could also be very much less in practice. For example, a papyrus from Egypt of the late 1st Century AD, probably AD87,(or rather part of it) shows that the original number was estimated at something like 60 ( missing bit), and the remainder after detachments, men despatched on escort duty, on leave, in hospital etc reads REMAINDER 40, and then lists 9 as 'free from duty' ( keeper of weapons, clerks , orderlies, bookeepers etc) leaving just 31 available for 'general duties', increasing to 36 later in the month - the men are all individually named.
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Of course, 80 is a red herring. You can cite papyri showing that centuriae were smaller than that. I can cite others showing that centuriae were larger than that (e.g. Tab. Vind. 2.154 from AD 80/90s; P. Dura 82 from AD 220s).

It's an interesting thought that, without the explicit statement of "Hyginus", we'd be happy to reckon a centuria at 100 men. And we'd make the same special pleading for why some are smaller than that and some are larger! Big Grin
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the century - fighting unit - by Ygraine - 02-04-2008, 08:03 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Jvrjenivs - 02-04-2008, 08:16 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Ygraine - 02-04-2008, 08:22 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Jvrjenivs - 02-04-2008, 08:29 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Ygraine - 02-04-2008, 08:36 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Jvrjenivs - 02-04-2008, 08:42 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Latinitas - 02-04-2008, 09:15 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Tarbicus - 02-04-2008, 09:16 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Ygraine - 02-05-2008, 12:00 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Tarbicus - 02-05-2008, 12:24 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by sonic - 02-05-2008, 08:49 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Jvrjenivs - 02-05-2008, 08:55 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by vergilius - 02-05-2008, 02:38 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Matthew Amt - 02-05-2008, 04:33 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Jvrjenivs - 02-05-2008, 09:14 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Tarbicus - 02-05-2008, 11:51 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Jvrjenivs - 02-06-2008, 10:08 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Sean Manning - 02-06-2008, 05:13 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Ygraine - 02-06-2008, 08:26 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Hibernicus - 02-06-2008, 08:36 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Tarbicus - 02-07-2008, 09:28 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Narukami - 02-07-2008, 04:11 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Hibernicus - 02-07-2008, 04:50 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by antiochus - 02-08-2008, 01:41 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Ygraine - 02-08-2008, 02:41 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Ygraine - 02-08-2008, 02:44 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Hibernicus - 02-09-2008, 04:35 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by antiochus - 02-10-2008, 03:37 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by antiochus - 02-11-2008, 05:02 AM
The Century - by Paullus Scipio - 03-28-2008, 02:40 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by antiochus - 03-31-2008, 03:38 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by jespah2000 - 04-02-2008, 04:00 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Latinitas - 04-02-2008, 12:20 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by antiochus - 04-03-2008, 09:01 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by L C Cinna - 04-03-2008, 03:55 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Tarbicus - 04-03-2008, 09:09 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by D B Campbell - 04-03-2008, 09:23 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by L C Cinna - 04-03-2008, 10:02 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Tarbicus - 04-03-2008, 11:34 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by antiochus - 04-04-2008, 05:02 AM
The Century - by Paullus Scipio - 04-04-2008, 07:52 AM
Re: The Century - by D B Campbell - 04-04-2008, 11:07 AM
The Century - by Paullus Scipio - 04-04-2008, 01:17 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by D B Campbell - 04-04-2008, 01:42 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by L C Cinna - 04-04-2008, 03:16 PM
Re: The Century - by D B Campbell - 04-04-2008, 03:35 PM
Re: The Century - by D B Campbell - 04-04-2008, 04:30 PM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by L C Cinna - 04-04-2008, 07:13 PM
Re: The Century - by Ross Cowan - 04-04-2008, 08:12 PM
Re: The Century - by D B Campbell - 04-04-2008, 09:00 PM
Re: The Century - by antiochus - 04-05-2008, 01:54 AM
Re: The Century - by Ross Cowan - 04-05-2008, 09:54 AM
Re: the century - fighting unit - by Ross Cowan - 04-05-2008, 10:11 AM
Re: The Century - by SOCL - 04-05-2008, 01:11 PM
Re: The Century - by Ross Cowan - 04-05-2008, 01:35 PM
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