Pugio sheath plate type A

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

Hi

thanks to all for the comments

Tarbicus

I'm interested in which parts you used the chisels for, and which parts the gravers?

the gravers for the lines and borders of the leafs(?), and the chisels for the interior of the leafs

Crispvs

Luc's sheath must stand as an example to all of us of what we should strive for.

Thanks Crispus, but that's to much honer :oops:

Titus Aetius

hope to see it in real life once!

you will, its for the new Oudenburg Museum

Magnus

Dare I ask how many hours that took?

it took me 40 hours from sheet this point

Could a similar pattern be done on deepeeka's new plain pugio pattern?

don't now, if the sheet is thick enough and you anneal it and make an proper anvil to work on than it will go
I used 2 mm pure iron sheet and annealed it to soften it

Gaius Julius Caesar

it almost looks CAD perfect

Thanks, well its looks like, but its far from perfect , the outer lines are drawn with a cut out picture of the original and the rest with compasses, square, bench rule and the free hand

Senovara

That's not just a pugio sheath, my friend, that is ART.

that's how I see a pugio / pugio sheath ( in the end 1 BC on to 1 and 2 nd AD ), not only functional but a piece of ART, and valuable for the owner where a legionary could showoff his taste for beauty :wink:

Cheers

Luc

[MARCvSVIBIvSMAvRINvS]

Luc made my Fibula, a la-tene type which i affectionately have called the GIGER fibula... ill post a photo soon!

He is a master craftsman and I wish i didnt have two left hands....

M.VIB.M.

[Quintilianus]

Luc, since I am starting the sheath part of my Sisak pugio, I have an important question (I will probably have lots more to come...).

You say you used gravers and chisels. Now I can make chisels for work on brass, but I imagine I better buy me some professionally made ones for this project. Can you also direct to some books or websites regarding the use of gravers? And also which ones (gravers and chisels) do I need and where can I get them?

Thanks.

[LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS]

Stunning work! Laus for you!

Could a similar pattern be done on deepeeka's new plain pugio pattern?

Is not easy. I have try to do it, but the plate are under 1 mm in some places, so it bends very easy.

[Magnus]

Ok...probably not something for an amateur like me to try then. 8)

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

Jurgen,

for this work, even if you buy professionally made graver's and chisels, you will need to rework them to fit your needs, you can find two shops in Antwerpen, Swiss axe and Dekeyzer, both at the diamond center region , just ask it when you are there, they are no more than 400 meter from each other away

what you need is one or two straight graver's with the proper dimensions and a knife graver for the undercuts.

a good book with plenty of technical information is:
The Art of Engraving - James B. Meek - F. Brownell & Son Publishers ( no ISBN nb. )

you can buy it over the counter at Buysscheart 056-22-05-49

Cheers

Luc

[Quintilianus]

Thanks, I know Swissaxe. I'll pay them a visit.
What do you think about system Matt Lukes uses? Punching instead of engraving?

http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic. ... wire+inlay

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

It all depend of how much metal you have to move

Cheers

Luc

[Quintilianus]

I'll do some trials and see how far I get.

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

Jurgen

that's the only way to get the feeling and the technique in your hands, making tests pieces, feel how the metal moves under your tools

Cheers

Luc

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

Jurgen,

I forgot to tell you, for making curves or scrolls you need an other graver,
one with a cross section like in the drawing, and sharpened like i drew,
with this form you can easily follow any curve cause you have a rounded back end of the graver.

Cheers

Luc

[Marcus Mummius]

Brianhor in the Diamond district in Antwerp has nice tools too and is a bit cheaper than Swiss Axe for most things.

Kind regards,
Jef