Embosing and Tinning Scabbard plates ect ?

[brennivs - tony drake]

Long time since I openned a thread so here goes D I have a couple to try on before I do the ones I am making.Also has anyone a line drawing of this plate which is the one I am copying.

This is the link to the site it came from;
http://www.romancoins.info/MilitaryEqui ... ttack.html
It is a bit difficult to work out



These are the to scrap pieces I have to practise on if anyone has any thoughts or has done this I would like to here for any help and advice
Regards Brennivs
PS Happy New Year

[Crispvs]

I think this is the one you want.




There is also a drawing of it in B&C2.


Crispvs

[brennivs - tony drake]

Thanks Crispvs I have the book so I will Look up cheers ? D
Regards Brennivs

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Some people do the sword of tiberius that way, but I don't know if tha tis just for diversity or if it was that way.

[brennivs - tony drake]

Gaivs the sword of Tiberivs has gold embossed fittings with the base plate heavly silvered, this is my favorite Mainz D
Regards Brennivs

[Marcus Mummius]

Here's a pompei locket that has background tinning/silvering:

http://www.romancoins.info/milit-gladiusblech.jpg

Vale,

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Gaivs the sword of Tiberivs has gold embossed fittings with the base plate heavly silvered, this is my favorite Mainz D
Regards Brennivs

So they say, but some one said it was discovered that the 'gold' was only brass. But as an option, you can use brass and tin it for a similar effect?

[Peroni]

Erik Konig made my Ptuj locket with selective tinning...

[Chuck Russell]

primvs pavlvs has tinned a few scabbard parts. talk to him

[LUCIUS ALFENUS AVITIANUS]

The easiest way to do what you want is that (NOT PERIOD). You have to do a electrolytic silvering (or comissioned it), and cover with paint or so the things you want to be not covered. The silver or tin will cover the unpainted surfaces, then you get out the paint and the surface will be metal base coloured.

Another way is to tin all the surface and then get out the tin with some sandpaper first ant then with steel wool. Polish the surfaces to get a shiny appearence.

A nice locket!

[brennivs - tony drake]

Thanks for the replys but so far I have only come across this one that has been embossed and silvered;

I know about the pompeii fittings and thanks for the pics, but it is the Mainz/Fullum plates I want to see how many were silvered and whether they just did the background or the whole face.
Thanks again keep em coming
Regards Brennivs

[Marcus Mummius]

Perhaps someone that has a copy of Studien zur Roemischen Schwertbewaffnung in der Kaiserzeit, , Koelner Stdien zur Archeaeologie der Roemischen Provinzen (KSARP) 8. VML Verlag: ISBN 978-3-89646-136-0


Could comment here. A vast amount of scabbard parts seem to be published in this book.

Vale,

[brennivs - tony drake]

Gaivs this is my Tiberrivs chape in brass;

If they are brass then it is a credit to the BM conservation dept to bring the plates to life hock: D D
Regards Brennivs

[Tarbicus]

You know, there is an opinion out that there that the Sword of Tiberius scabbard plates are stamped, and the sword is just a common or garden legionary's sword. I'm not saying whose opinion it is, but when they pointed it out to me at the BM and I looked closer at it, I pretty much had to agree with him.

[brennivs - tony drake]

Thanks Tarbicvs yes I would believe that they could stamp out these plates and the Tiberivs sword my find a brother one day I have found a lot of plates that follow a theme, the thunder bolts and lighting been popular. On the other hand it is not to time consuming to just do them free hand without the need for dies or the dies were just small images which you could mix and match.Lets hope one day they find the dies ect for this types of work.
Regards Brennivs