11-26-2007, 08:38 PM
Gentlemen, a word of caution.
One. Lay off the sarcasm and innuendo.
Two. Discuss properly. This is a forum where sources are to be mentioned. It's not done to discuss sources by laying into each other that 'the other guy' is the one not mentioning sources, or by claiming you have all the sources but you decline mentioning them. If you must discuss this, mention your sources and stick to that.
Three.
I mean, stones or missiles, mountain artillery or not, artillery experts hired or not, a siege broken off - vicotry or defeat? Even that guy who died on the battlefield - the fact that there are many versions of his death is a tell-tale sign that even his contemporaries did not have a clue about the facts surrounding his demise!
Why don't you just agree to disagree and be done with it?
I've been in your position (on this forum, to my undying shame), so I know where this leads.
Shake hands and move on?
If not, discuss only while mentioning your sources, primary or secundary. :evil:
One. Lay off the sarcasm and innuendo.
Two. Discuss properly. This is a forum where sources are to be mentioned. It's not done to discuss sources by laying into each other that 'the other guy' is the one not mentioning sources, or by claiming you have all the sources but you decline mentioning them. If you must discuss this, mention your sources and stick to that.
Three.
Quote:I would happily accept that 'proof', as such, given the lack of sources is out of the question.Wise words. I do not presume to know anything of value about a) artillery or b) the Macedonian period, but I'm of the impression that this is not a discusssion about facts, but about experts disagreeing with each other about the interpretation of ancient sources. That's all good and well, but it's apparently not facts. And it's also the reason that this is a discussion without end, because it's all about interpretation.
I mean, stones or missiles, mountain artillery or not, artillery experts hired or not, a siege broken off - vicotry or defeat? Even that guy who died on the battlefield - the fact that there are many versions of his death is a tell-tale sign that even his contemporaries did not have a clue about the facts surrounding his demise!
Why don't you just agree to disagree and be done with it?
I've been in your position (on this forum, to my undying shame), so I know where this leads.
Shake hands and move on?
If not, discuss only while mentioning your sources, primary or secundary. :evil:
Robert Vermaat
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FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
MODERATOR
FECTIO Late Romans
THE CAUSE OF WAR MUST BE JUST
(Maurikios-Strategikon, book VIII.2: Maxim 12)
