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early 3rd century helmet
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#1
10-29-2007, 08:54 PM
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Hi,

I am new on the Forum (first day !) but crazy about roman history for many years.
I belonged to the Foederati (5th c. AD) but I want now to concentrate on early 3rd century AD even if I am not a specialist of this period. If you can answer my questions, I would really appreciate :

- do you think I can use a Auxiliary E or a Niedermörmter helmet as a soldier of the reign of Septimus Severus or Caracalla ?
- there is a debate whether the Auxiliary E was "infantry" or "cavalry" helmet ? Any clue ?
- Niedermörmter replicas are either brass or steel ... What material is the original Niedermörmter made from ?

Many thanks in advance.

Hervé CAILLAU
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10-29-2007, 09:02 PM
About the neidermormters,
- one appears to be a comdination iron brass.bronze,
- the other was all bronze or brass or oriculum or whatever it was....
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10-29-2007, 10:44 PM
Quote:... our buzzer/intercom is on the blink, and I go offshore tomorrow!
Hey, I thought you were locked up in a bathyscape somewhere, Byron! Big Grin
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#4
10-30-2007, 12:23 PM
It was once thought (Robinson, Feugère) that the Niederbieber-helmets of "Auxiliary-Cavalry" types E-F have been made for Cavalry use only, but today it is widely accepted (Ubl, Waurick, Junkelmann) that they have been worn by Infantry and Cavalry alike.
They have been in use from the late 2nd to late 3rd Century AD.

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10-30-2007, 01:22 PM
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Gaius Julius Caesar:30k4iq7v Wrote:... our buzzer/intercom is on the blink, and I go offshore tomorrow!
Hey, I thought you were locked up in a bathyscape somewhere, Byron! Big Grin

Close, but I have internet....intermittantly! :lol:
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#6
10-30-2007, 06:34 PM
Many thanks for your help.

Do you know suppliers who make accurate replicas of these helmets ? Deepeeka offer these models but I don't know whether they are good or bad ? Holger Ratsdorf (HR Replikate) proposes a beautiful Auxiliary E but price is over 1000 € ...

All the best.

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10-30-2007, 06:37 PM
Well, if you find someone who will do a custom Neidermormter, let me know! Tongue
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10-30-2007, 08:30 PM
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Well, that's not very encouraging ...

What is your opinion about the Deepeeka replicas ?

All the best.

Hervé Caillau
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10-30-2007, 08:40 PM
Did you already look here:
http://www.romanarmy.com/rat/viewtopic.php?t=14868 ? Big Grin
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