Were Celtic inscriptions found in USA?

[Treveri Gaul]

Hallo my Gentlemen.

I would like to receive help in it that Celtic writing were found in USA? If is yes I would like, to obtain the informations then. Thanks.


Best regards

[zugislander]

This is off memory as I ditched my copy of the book many years ago, but I believe it was in a book entitled "How the Irish Saved History" that a story was related of Celts being brought over to North America to mine for Iron by Carthaginians. This was based on the stupendous historical facts that Carthaginians were the preeminent sailors of their day, there was easily available Iron in New York State, and in the general vicinity of New York State (I believe the finds were also made in Pennsylvania and New Jersey) stones have been found with what appear to be "Irish" inscriptions on them. The stones are undatable and unreadible except in bits and pieces (i.e. what could be a letter here, and there on a given stone).

I never put stock in the idea at all as: Carthaginian contact with Ireland was minimal at best, The Carthaginians had plenty of Iron in Spain, North America was a long way to go for anything, And there has been a large population of Irish Immigrants in the region for a couple of centuries so they could more easily have been fabricated by more recent locals. "When all else is equal, the simpler answer is preferable".

I hope this helps.

Cordially,

Michael

[Agraes]

As far I know, Irish "ogams" are mostly from the early christian era. Maybe some irish monks did reach America, as tales of their navigations are recorded, but I doubt it had a big impact on history...

[Gobae]

Another book that contains many of these theories is "America BC" by Barry Fell.

I haven't read the book in years and years so I can't comment directly. But there are a few websites out there that critique/debunk many of its assertions.

Personally, while I think it is possible that at least Christian era Celts made the voyage to NA (Brendan's voyage and before), I agree that they probably had little impact and left no trace. Even the more permanent settlement in Le aux Meadows, (Newfoundland Canada) the Norse had was difficult to find.

[M. Demetrius]

Remember that North America wasn't devoid of inhabitants at that time, and many regarded visitors from over the water with suspicion. Some skeletons have been recovered, however, that are clearly not American Indians. They are suspected of being Vikings (who had the better seafaring boats compared to Irish of the day, iirc) but I don't know if DNA testing has been done, or any other verification.

[Robert Vermaat]

Celtic writing were found in USA?

No, there were not. Every claim of Celts in the US has been refuted when the 'inscriptions' were researched.

[Hugh Fuller]

Along with runestones in the Minnesota.

[M. Demetrius]

Yeah, and alien footprints in the Southwest USA, too. :roll:

[Chuck Russell]

http://www.appvoices.org/index.php?/sit ... /issue/543

[Treveri Gaul]

Thanks Chuck.


Yes from these signs there is a word. There is not a photo with a better quality from them somewhere?

[D B Campbell]

Hmmm ... unintelligible scratches in the rock + empty beer cans? Sounds suspicious. :wink:

[Treveri Gaul]

Hello Campbell.

I discover it who is the criminal. This is my job.
:lol:

[Primvs Pavlvs]

There has been at least one Caucasian skeleton found(unfortunately unpublished yet) here in WV that dates pre-Columbus, and one small bronze cross. Add these discoveries with the debated Ogham in Wyoming County, several historians have suggested that Irish monks did indeed make it to this area.

Vallus here are some links that may interest you. I will not validate them as I have not read all of these, but they look interesting.

http://www.prehistoricplanet.com/wv/fea ... /index.htm

http://www.wvculture.org/HISTORY/ahnews/0606news.pdf

http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf027/sf027p01.htm

http://cwva.org/index.html

[Celtic505]

A few years ago I traveled by Boston and stopped at the so-called "America's Stonehenge" aka Mystery Hill in New England. It was a very odd and creepy place, something gave you the feeling something there was beyond your understanding or more of an unexplainable feeling. But it is a small either settlement or religious center made up of stone, with walls and large stones marking astrological events, and what appeared to be a sacrificial table that had grooves on the sides for blood to collect and pour into a drain. There are weird markings all over the structures and some have been recognized as Irish ogham, as well as Phoenician symbols too. It was a weird experience but a very interesting one for myself, because I am into weird unexplained things in history. But anyways, much of the remains from the site that had valuable inscriptions were destroyed by the owner during the 1870's because he beleived it was a settlement from Irish monks and destroyed all evidence that didn't back him up. Supposedly the site dates to around the Bronze age, with some other parts dating around 500 BC I beleive? It is undoubtedly a pagan site, and hundreds of theories as to what it is are up in the air. It could even be a native american site, but the style of buildings and inscriptions definately show a european influence. The leading theories are that it was a phoenician or celtic settlement or Phoenicians with celtic mercenaries, due to the phoenicians inscriptions and ability to navigate the seas. You should definately look more into it. I have pictures of it from my visit but I'd have to look for them. But I've heard it's just one of many ruins in america that had traces of celtic symbols or writings. Who knows.

[M. Demetrius]

Dennis,
Where is this place? There are members on this board who live near there and might be interested in visiting an "American Stonehenge".