10-07-2010, 08:55 PM
Depictions of 'Hoplites' actually fighting wearing just 'soft' piloi????
I don't think I have ever seen this - could you post some images, please?
Outside battle, we know that 'Hoplites' often wore arming caps under their helmets, and I think this the likely explanation for the rare 'piloi' that can be interpreted as 'soft' ( and even then there is doubt often whether 'soft' or hard is being depicted........)
I would certainly agree that it is unlikely that Spartans of this or any other era were 'unformly' equipped.
As to 'bronze clad Spartans' it is my belief these likely all but disappeared prior to the Persian Wars in favour of Tube-and-Yoke armours, as elsewhere in Greece....
The idea that Spartans 'abandoned' body armour is a certain "Myth", and in all likelihood so is the idea that they used only the 'pilos'......
I don't think I have ever seen this - could you post some images, please?
Outside battle, we know that 'Hoplites' often wore arming caps under their helmets, and I think this the likely explanation for the rare 'piloi' that can be interpreted as 'soft' ( and even then there is doubt often whether 'soft' or hard is being depicted........)
I would certainly agree that it is unlikely that Spartans of this or any other era were 'unformly' equipped.
As to 'bronze clad Spartans' it is my belief these likely all but disappeared prior to the Persian Wars in favour of Tube-and-Yoke armours, as elsewhere in Greece....
The idea that Spartans 'abandoned' body armour is a certain "Myth", and in all likelihood so is the idea that they used only the 'pilos'......
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(It is a sweet and proper thing to die for ones country)
"No son-of-a-bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" - George C Scott as General George S. Patton
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