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Greek Helmet/ armour database
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Here is a proposition how the the structure of the database could look like.
As the material is much more complex than in the Roman helmet section, it is necessary to add a system of numbers and letters to the name of the main-type to classify the subtypes. As we are confronted with different helmet-types, whose subtypes are treated in a different way (form of cheeckpieces, calotte, decoration etc.) this system cannot be used to show characteristics of the different main types, so it is needed to show somewere why the subdivisions have been made. It would make sense to add the system proposed by Ralph at a later date to have the ability to make comparisons of the whole material.
If all the subdivisions are really necessary is of course open to debate.

Boar-tusk-helmets

Bell-helmets (only the examples found in Greek contexts)

Cypriot helmets (of Tamassos type)

Cretan helmets
I - Insular type (Snodgrass type "Ba")
II - type with cheeckpieces (Snodgrass type "Ca")

Ionian helmets (only to cheek-pieces which could have belonged to this type)

Geometric ("Kegel-")helmets
I - made of five pieces
A - calotte pointed with high crest ("Argos" variant)
B - calotte pointed without crest ("Budapest" variant)
C - calotte hemispherical ("Ordona" variant)

II - made of one piece (only Guttmann AG 445)

Illyrian helmets
I - early stage of evolution
A - made of two pieces
B - made of one piece

II - middle stage of evolution
A - with edge-roll
B - without edge-roll

III- late stage of evolution
A - with side-wedges
1 - with rivet-edge
2 - with punched edge
3 - with undecorated edge (apart from engraving)

B - with ear-cutouts
1 - with rivet-edge
2 - with punched edge
3 - with undecorated edge

C - with hinged cheeckpieces

Corinthian helmets
I - early stage of evolution
A - made of one piece
1 - with smooth calotte
2 - with Illyrian crest

B - made of two pieces
1 - horizontal division
2 - vertical division

II - middle stage of evolution
A - with rounded side-cutouts
1 - with rounded calotte
2 - with markedly transition from side to skull
(the famous "Myros"-group with more than 80 pieces which could be further divided from their style of edge-decoration)

B - with side-wedges
1 - with rounded calotte
a - with smooth calotte
b - with Illyrian crest
c - with lotosflower-decoration
d - with connected cheekpieces ("Picenian" variant, not to be confused with Apulo-Corinthian)
2 - with markedly transition from side to skull
a - without eyebrows ("Greek" group)
b - with eyebrows ("Italic" group)

III - late stage of evolution
A - with gable-formed brow
1 - sides and skull meeting on same level ("Lamia"-group)
2 - skull overlapping sides ("Hermione"-group)
3 - decorated Italic group

B - with wedge-formed brow
1 - decorated Italic group
2 - with connected cheekpieces ("Picenian" group)

Corinthian-Chalcidian helmets (Corinthians with ear-cutouts and helmets which show characteristics of both types like the one Gioi showed us in his last post)

The letters and numbers in bold would be parts of the helmet-name in the main-tab. A Corinthian helmet of the middle stage of evolution with side-wedges and rounded skull with Illyrian crest would have the name
Corinthian-II1b-x(number in sequence).
The main-tab should comprise the fields for findplace and whereabout wit further tabs like in the Roman database.

This is my proposition for now. I can give a classification for the other helmet types soon if wished.

Greets,

Decebalus/Andreas Gagelmann
Andreas Gagelmann
Berlin, Germany
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Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Paullus Scipio - 10-04-2007, 02:14 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Ioannis - 10-04-2007, 12:41 PM
Greek Helmet Database - by Paullus Scipio - 10-04-2007, 09:08 PM
Greek Helmet Database - by Paullus Scipio - 10-04-2007, 09:20 PM
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Greek Helmet Database - by Paullus Scipio - 10-05-2007, 09:31 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by spyros - 10-06-2007, 04:20 PM
Re: Greek Helmet Database - by MeinPanzer - 10-06-2007, 07:58 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 10-06-2007, 09:58 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 10-07-2007, 01:43 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 10-07-2007, 02:39 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by MeinPanzer - 10-07-2007, 06:46 PM
Greek Helmet Database - by Paullus Scipio - 10-08-2007, 01:50 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 10-08-2007, 01:06 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 10-08-2007, 04:33 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 10-11-2007, 01:30 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 10-11-2007, 05:41 PM
Greek Helmet database - by Paullus Scipio - 10-11-2007, 10:51 PM
re: - by Johnny Shumate - 10-13-2007, 03:09 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Gaius Decius Aquilius - 10-13-2007, 02:56 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by geala - 10-14-2007, 08:34 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Tarbicus - 10-16-2007, 04:05 AM
Greek helmet database - by Paullus Scipio - 10-16-2007, 10:41 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 10-16-2007, 03:01 PM
Greek Helmet/Armour Database - by Paullus Scipio - 10-17-2007, 12:58 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 10-17-2007, 09:45 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 10-17-2007, 10:30 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 10-18-2007, 02:23 PM
Greek helmets - by Paullus Scipio - 10-19-2007, 01:06 AM
Greek Helmet database - by Paullus Scipio - 10-29-2007, 04:32 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 10-29-2007, 11:59 AM
Greek Helmet/Armour database - by Paullus Scipio - 11-18-2007, 03:26 AM
Greek Helmet Database - by Paullus Scipio - 11-26-2007, 01:23 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by MeinPanzer - 11-27-2007, 01:24 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by MeinPanzer - 11-28-2007, 11:29 AM
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Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Nectanebo - 12-19-2007, 10:42 PM
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Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Nectanebo - 12-21-2007, 11:34 PM
Greek armour database - by Paullus Scipio - 12-22-2007, 12:40 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Kineas - 10-16-2008, 03:10 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 04-09-2009, 07:30 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by barcid - 05-21-2009, 12:00 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Phalanx300 - 05-21-2009, 11:59 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Phalanx300 - 05-21-2009, 07:04 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Kineas - 06-10-2009, 10:41 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by barcid - 09-02-2010, 11:12 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by barcid - 09-04-2010, 02:55 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Virilis - 10-05-2010, 08:40 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Dan Howard - 10-12-2010, 11:58 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by rocktupac - 10-12-2010, 11:35 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Joe - 08-27-2011, 06:20 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Ghostmojo - 10-29-2011, 12:06 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Decebalus - 10-29-2011, 01:39 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Joe - 12-01-2011, 06:37 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Nikanor - 02-02-2012, 10:10 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Eric - 03-13-2012, 09:21 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Adonis - 04-30-2012, 04:17 PM
Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Joe - 05-02-2012, 08:47 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Adonis - 05-03-2012, 06:17 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Adonis - 05-04-2012, 02:03 AM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Lyceum - 06-09-2012, 11:24 PM
Re: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Julius Agricola - 07-28-2012, 07:00 PM
Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Josho Brouwers - 06-27-2013, 03:40 PM
Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Macedon - 07-23-2013, 10:51 PM
Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Josho Brouwers - 07-24-2013, 08:06 AM
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Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Josho Brouwers - 08-07-2013, 01:29 PM
Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Macedon - 08-07-2013, 03:32 PM
Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Josho Brouwers - 08-07-2013, 03:39 PM
Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Macedon - 08-07-2013, 04:41 PM
Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Ralph Lim - 05-06-2015, 03:36 PM
RE: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by qjo95 - 05-06-2019, 07:22 AM
RE: Greek Helmet/ armour database - by Idomeneas - 06-03-2019, 07:36 PM

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