need help with a pugio sheath

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

salvete,

found this page on the web with a pugio sheath,

[url:1hnyi0he]http://www.search.com/reference/Bronze_Age_sword[/url]

can someone give me more information on this sheath or larger picture

Thanks
Luc

[Crispvs]

I'll have a look when I get home and hopefully post something up on Monday.

Crispvs

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

I think its the Ocnita sheath, if someone can find and copy the article in I would be very thankfully

" Beiträge zu Römischeer und Barbarischer Bewaffenung in den ersten vier nachchristlichen Jahrhunderten "
Veröffentl. Vorgesch. Seminar Marburg Sonderbd. 8 (Lublin/Marburg 1994 )

Cheers

Luc

[Gaius Julius Caesar]

Looks familiar anyway!

[Mark Headlee]

Ave Frater,

Though not primary research, look at Erik Konigs web site for a recreation and larger pictures of the pugio scabbard.

http://www.replik-online.de/en/index.html

[Arahne]

L. Petculescu, Roman military equipment in the Dacian hill-fort at Ocnita,...

[Marcus Mummius]

Looks a bit like there's blue enamel on the sheath in the drawing...

[LVCIVS VVLPES]

Mark,

the recreation by Erik is the Dunaföldvar sheath Hungary, the one on the picture should be from Romania, thanks anyway

Arahne,
Thanks for that page, that was a wrong guess on my part should have double checked, its certainly not the Ocnita sheath this is a B type the one in the drawing is an A type

Cheers

Luc

[Mark Headlee]

Luc,

Sorry..my mistake! :oops:

[Crispvs]

I have had a look through my various resources and I now realise that this is a completely new sheath for me . As Luc says, it ios a type 'A' sheath and the decoration is typical of the first half of the first century AD. Past this I cannot say anything much more about it. I too would be very interested in finding out more and preferably getting my hands on a copy of the relevant article.

Crispvs

[Crispvs]

"Looks a bit like there's blue enamel on the sheath in the drawing... "

I could be green enamel or perhaps more likely, corroded copper-alloy. Copper-alloy inlay is often combined with coloured enamel in this type of decorative scheme. The positions of the apparent blue colour would be consistant with where I would expect to find copper-alloy inlay. This contrast with other uncorroded copper-alloy inlay on the sheath could be the result of pockets of acidity in the soil or even rain at the time the sheath was excavated.

Crispvs

[Arahne]

There is also an ring-pommel on the same table decorated in nielo technique.

[Peroni]

There is also an ring-pommel on the same table decorated in nielo technique.

This could just as easily be a terret ring from a chariot IMO.

[Crispvs]

It could be but my money would be on a ring pommel on the basis that all of the terret rings I remember having seen in museums were flat along the underside of the straight side, whereas this ring has a lump in roughly the centre of this piece which projects below the overall ring, suggesting to me that this is the point where it was attached to a sword tang.

Crispvs