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Smoking Romans...
#16
Quote:There's even a six page paper at JSTOR about the opium addiction of Marcus Aurelius:

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-5037(196101%2F03 )22%3A1%3C97%3ATOAOMA%3E2.0.CO%3B2-%23
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The Opium Addiction of Marcus Aurelius
Thomas W. Africa
Journal of the History of Ideas, Vol. 22, No. 1 (Jan. - Mar., 1961), pp. 97-102

I did'nt know that. But then, I've just started reading Meditations and haven't gotten to that part yet. So far, it's pretty deep stuff. Maybe the opium had something to do with it?
---AH Mervla, aka Joel Boynton
Legio XIIII, Gemina Martia Victrix
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#17
I found this lil tidbit on wikipedia (so I dunno about the sources) to backup my memory about the greek cult that took mushrooms, just read the part on europe and in mythology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogens#Europe [/url]

I should prolly look into the sources for the claims and see if it checks out, because anybody can write down anything on that site.
Dennis Flynn
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#18
Smoking Romans were probably the ones who actually started the Great Fire of Nero's time. :lol:
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#19
*a pair of Roman stable boys taking a toke break in the hay loft*

"Dude, Titus, where'd that joint go.....? I just lit it."

"Hey man, chill out. You're so feeling it. You should, like, take a nap...think I will too." Rolls over and goes to sleep, forgetting about the lit reefer in his hand. The rest is history Smile
---AH Mervla, aka Joel Boynton
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#20
When I was at uni I was told a story of a young academic who theorised that the small ceramic jars found on a Roman wreck were opium jars. (they looked like opium poppies) He was laughed at until the technology to sample their interiors was developed and confirmed that they contained opium.
I also read (somewhere) that opium was part of the Roman doctors kit for obvious pain relief.
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Richard
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#21
Quote:When I was at uni I was told a story of a young academic who theorised that the small ceramic jars found on a Roman wreck were opium jars. (they looked like opium poppies) He was laughed at until the technology to sample their interiors was developed and confirmed that they contained opium.
I also read (somewhere) that opium was part of the Roman doctors kit for obvious pain relief.
Regards,
Richard

Dioscurides mentions opium. pop historians lately came up with the idea Nero might have been an opium addict, and the stuff was certainly widely traded. That doesn't mean opium smoking, though. Opiates are notoriously versatile drugs - just about the only thing that won't work is absorption though the skin - and I suspect the Romans took their opium orally. It was certainly the preferred method of administering it in medieval and early modern Europe, cf 'Confessions of an English Opium-Eater' (not -Smoker).

PLus, archeologists can come up with interesting ideas. A certain type of vessel ("sphero-conical") found in the medieval Middle East has been called anything from a hand grenade to a container for carbonated drinks.
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#22
Traces of opium and other narcotic substances have been founded inside iberian pottery.

As i have read somewhere, the consum of opium was in form of eaten small balls.
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#23
Hence a picture which could help you:

[Image: f_mosaicom_58ef6f8.jpg]

(yes, it's a pipe)
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#24
Any information on where the Mosaic came from, and possible dating?

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#25
Quote:Any information on where the Mosaic came from, and possible dating?

Cheers,
Adam Cripps

Not now but I'm currently researching into it. I saw it on a webpage of Pipe Smokers :lol: .

I'll tell you something when I know.
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#26
By the kindness of a friend I've known something about the mosaic; it is located in the Córdoba Museum, in which you could ask for more information; what I can tell you is that it comes from an villa or town in the outskirts (I assume of Rome) and dates the first century after Jesus Christ.
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#27
Awesome! Thank you very much for looking into it.

Cheers,
Adam
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#28
I doubt it being a pipe for smoking...it rather looks like a pipe for music.
Its a Phrygian Aulos, he holds two pipes and one has a horn-end.
Susanna

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A Lyra is basically an instrument to accompaign pyromanic city destruction.
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#29
Wow, Susanna, it seems that you are correct Confusedhock:
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